Messaging & Conferencing Audio & Video Games Common Servers Other (including remote control)
Messaging & Conferencing Active Worlds (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 3000 IN TCP 5670 IN TCP 7777 IN TCP 7000-7100
[0000] Type=TCP Translation=NORMAL Port=5670
[0001] Type=TCP Translation=NORMAL Port=7777
[0002] Type=TCP Translation=NORMAL Port=7000-7100
[0003] Type=TCP Translation=NORMAL Port=3000
AIM Talk OUT TCP 4099 IN TCP 5190
Battlecom (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN UDP 2300 - 2400 IN TCP 2300 - 2400 IN UDP 47624 IN TCP 47624
Buddy Phone (only communication. No FTP) IN UDP 700 - 701
Calista IP phone OUT TCP 5190 IN UDP 3000
CuSeeMe (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) OUT UDP 24032 IN UDP 1414 [use H.323 protocol if available] IN UDP 1424 [use H.323 protocol if available] IN TCP 1503 IN TCP 1720 [use H.323 protocol if available] IN UDP 1812 1813 IN TCP 7640 IN TCP 7642 IN UDP 7648 IN TCP 7648 IN TCP 7649 7649 IN UDP 24032 IN UDP 56800 OUT UDP 1414 [use H.323 protocol if available] OUT UDP 1424 [use H.323 protocol if available] OUT TCP 1503 OUT TCP 1720 [use H.323 protocol if available] OUT UDP 1812 1813 OUT TCP 7640 OUT TCP 7642 OUT UDP 7648 OUT TCP 7648 OUT TCP 7649 OUT UDP 56800
Delta Three PC to Phone (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 12053 [use CuSeeMe protocol if available] IN TCP 12083 IN UDP 12080 IN UDP 12120 IN UDP 12122 IN UDP 24150 - 24179
Dialpad OUT TCP 7175 IN UDP 51200 51201 IN TCP 51210 IN TCP 1584 1585 OUT TCP 8680 8686
Dwyco Video Conferencing (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN UDP 12000 - 16090 IN TCP 1024 - 5000 IN TCP 6700 - 6702 IN TCP 6880
Go2Call IN UDP 2090 2091 IN TCP 2090
H.323 compliant video player, NetMeeting 2.0, 3.0, Intel Video Phone (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) (Incoming calls are not possible due to NetMeeting assigning ports dynamically.) OUT TCP 1720 IN UDP 1024 65534 [use H.323 protocol if available] OUT UDP 1024 65534 [use H.323 protocol if available] IN TCP 1024 1502 [use H.323 protocol if available] OUT TCP 1024 1502 [use H.323 protocol if available] IN TCP 1504 1730 [use H.323 protocol if available] OUT TCP 1504 1730 [use H.323 protocol if available] IN TCP 1732 65534 [use H.323 protocol if available] OUT TCP 1732 65534 [use H.323 protocol if available] OUT TCP 1503 1503 OUT TCP 1731 1731 IN TCP 1503 1503 IN TCP 1731 1731
Hotline Server IN TCP 5500 - 5503 IN UDP 5499 The TCP Ports enabled are 5500 - 5503 (This is for the standard 5500 Hotline port)
If you change the default port, then you must enable the 3 ports after it (so if you choose 4000 then you must enable 4000 - 4003)
The UDP port enabled 5499 is required only if you want to list your server on a tracker (the data stream is only outgoing so if you want to disable in bound on a firewall it would work fine)
ICQ In ICQ under "Preferences & security", "Preferences" and Connections, click on "I am behind a firewall or proxy" then click on "Firewall Settings". Then select "I don't have a SOCKS Proxy server on my firewall" or "I am using another Proxy server". Click Next. Click "Use the following TCP listen ports for incoming event" and set the TCP ports for 20000 to 20019 for the first user, 20020 to 20039 for the second user, 20040 to 20059 for the third user, etc.
OUT UDP 4000 IN TCP 20000 20019 for one user OR IN TCP 20000 20039 for two users OR IN TCP 20000 20059 for three users, etc.
ICUII Client (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) OUT TCP 2019 IN TCP 2000 2038 IN TCP 2050 2051 IN TCP 2069 IN TCP 2085 IN TCP 3010 3030 OUT TCP 2000 2038 OUT TCP 2050 2051 OUT TCP 2069 OUT TCP 2085 OUT TCP 3010 3030
ICUII Client (Version 4.xx) (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 1024 - 5000 IN TCP 2000 - 2038 IN TCP 2050 - 2051 IN TCP 2069 IN TCP 2085 IN TCP 3010 - 3030 IN TCP 6700 - 6702 IN TCP 6880 IN UDP 12000 - 16090
Internet Phone OUT UDP 22555
Ivisit IN UDP 9943 IN UDP 56768
LIVvE (For pager file send only) IN UDP 8999
mIRC DCC / IRC DCC [mIRC Proxy/Firewall Help page] (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 1024 - 5000
mIRC Chat (The IRC port is usually 6667) IN TCP 6660 - 6669
mIRC IDENT IN UDP 113
MSN Messenger (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) NOTE: Shut off any personal firewall programs such as BlackIce, ZoneAlarm, etc. Ports 6891-6900 enable File send, Port 6901 is for voice communications Allows Voice, PC to Phone, Messages, and Full File transfer capabilities. Thnx to Brad King & Bill Finch Jr. IN TCP 6891 - 6900 IN TCP 1863 IN UDP 1863 IN UDP 5190 IN UDP 6901 IN TCP 6901
Net2Phone OUT UDP 6801 IN UDP 6801 One additional UDP and one TCP port in the range of 1 to 30000 must be mapped. Ports 6802 and 6803 are suggested. These ports must be mapped in your firewall, then set in the Net2Phone client as follows: 1) Click on Net2Phone's "Menu" button. 2) Select "Preferences". 3) Click on the "Network" tab. 4) Enter 6802 for the Client TCP Port. 5) Enter 6803 for the Client UDP Port.
Pal Talk [support page] (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN UDP 2090 [voice] IN UDP 2091 [control stream] IN TCP 2090 [file transfer] IN TCP 2091 [video listening] IN TCP 2095 [file transfer- older versions] OUT TCP 5001 - 50015 [text messaging] OUT TCP 8200 - 8700 [Firewall / network mode group voice] OUT UDP 8200 - 8700 [Firewall / network mode group voice] OUT UDP 1025 - 2500 [outbound voice & control stream (user configurable)]
The last 2 UDP outbound ports are usually set in pairs. 1024 - 1025, 1026 - 1027, etc... Most users never have to set these lower two ports. They are dynamically assigned if you leave the lower two boxes set to 0's on the 'paltalk port settings' tab. Outbound ports are usually not an issue but are listed here for network users who may need to manually configure for a proxy or NAT server or other hardware device.
PhoneFree (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN UDP 1034 - 1035 IN UDP 9900 - 9901 IN TCP 1034 - 1035 IN TCP 2644 IN TCP 8000 This Mapping is needed to hear the audio from the incoming party, outgoing audio would work without it. ** According to phonefree the ports you need open are: 8000 TCP For Server access 1034 UDP Voice in/out 1035 TCP Voice in/out 2644 TCP Personal Communication Center I found that port range 9900-9901 UDP is also needed but not mentioned at phonefree support. Also shut off any other firewall programs you may have running.
To make PC-TO-PHONE calls, it seems only UDP port 9900 must be opened (the fewer ports open, the better!).
Polycom ViaVideo H.323 IN TCP 3230 - 3235 IN UDP 3230 - 3235 NOTE: I needed to set these ports to dial out. Also enable on ViaVideo (under H.323 QoS) 'Use Fixed Ports' 3230-3235 TCP & UDP
Roger Wilco [support page] IN TCP 3782 IN UDP 3782 IN UDP 3783 [only needed for RW Base station]
Speak Freely IN UDP 2074 - 2076
Yahoo Messenger Chat IN TCP 5000 - 5001
Yahoo Messenger Phone IN UDP 5055
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Audio & Video Audiogalaxy Satellite [updated 12/13/00] (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 41000 - 50000 IN TCP 1117-5190
Camerades IN TCP 2047 2048 IN UDP 2047 2048
GNUtella IN TCP 6346 IN UDP 6346
IStreamVideo2HP IN TCP 8076 - 8077 IN UDP 8076 - 8077
KaZaA IN TCP 1214
Napster OUT TCP 6699 IN TCP 6699
QuickTime 4 Server IN TCP 6970 IN UDP 6970 - 7000
QuickTime 4 Client & RealAudio on Port 554 (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) OUT TCP 554 IN UDP 6970 - 32000
RealAudio on Port 7070 OUT TCP 7070 IN UDP 6970 - 7170
ShoutCast Server IN TCP 8000 - 8005
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Games Aliens vs. Predator (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN UDP 80 IN UDP 2300 - 2400 IN UDP 8000 - 8999
Anarchy Online (BETA) IN TCP 7013 IN TCP 7500 - 7501 IN UDP 7013 IN UDP 7500 - 7501
Asheron's Call [support page] [mapping info] OUT UDP 9000, 9004, 9008, 9012 IN UDP 9000, 9001, 9004, 9005, 9012, 9013 NOTE! You may also need to open the MSN Game Zone and DX ports
Black and White IN TCP 2611 - 2612 IN TCP 6667 IN UDP 6500 IN UDP 27900
Blizzard Battlenet This allows for -1- machine on the network to take advantage of Blizzard's BattleNet system for playing online games such as Diablo II and StarCraft. The 6112 port is needed in both TCP and UDP for StarCraft and Diablo II, and the 4000 port is needed for Diablo II. No other settings should be needed. IN TCP 4000 IN TCP 6112 IN UDP 6112
Bungie.net, Myth, Myth II Server IN TCP 3453
Dark Reign 2 IN TCP 26214 IN UDP 26214
Delta Force (Client and Server) OUT UDP 3568 IN TCP 3100 3999 OUT TCP 3100 3999 IN UDP 3100 3999 OUT UDP 3100 3999
Delta Force 2 IN UDP 3568 IN UDP 3569
Elite Force IN UDP 26000 IN UDP 27500 IN UDP 27910 IN UDP 27960 NOTE: If the server is behind the same router/firewall as other clients, then all of the clients will have to add "+set net_port 27961," "27962," etc. to their shortcut command lines. Otherwise, they will not be able to use the in-game internet game browser. This is due to the fact that EF uses the same port (27960) for both the client and the server.
Everquest (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) See this Everquest page for more info IN TCP 1024 7000 IN UDP 1024 6000 Note: May have to open this last UDP range even wider
F-16, Mig 29 IN UDP 3862 IN UDP 3863
F-22 Lightning 3 (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN UDP 3875 IN UDP 4533 IN UDP 4534 IN UDP 4660 - 4670 (for VON)
F-22 Raptor IN UDP 3874, 3875
Fighter Ace II (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 50000 - 50100 IN UDP 50000 - 50100
for DX play also open these ports: IN TCP 47624 IN TCP 2300 - 2400 IN UDP 2300 - 2400
Half Life IN UDP 6003 IN UDP 7002 IN UDP 27010 IN UDP 27015 IN UDP 27025
Half Life Server IN UDP 27015
Heretic II Server IN TCP 28910
Hexen II Each computer hosting Hexen II must use a different port number, starting at 26900 and incrementing by 1.
IN UDP 26900 (for first player)
KALI Each computer using KALI must use a different port number, starting at 2213 and incrementing by 1.
IN UDP 2213 (for first player) IN UDP 6666
Kohan Immortal Sovereigns This allows you to host a Kohan game and have it show up on Gamespy, otherwise no one will be able to see your game outside of your lan. Only the ICS server can host games and have them show up however. IN UDP 3855 IN UDP 17437 IN TCP 3855 IN TCP 17437
Motorhead server IN UDP 16000 IN TCP 16000 IN TCP 16010 - 16030 IN UDP 16010 - 16030
The ports 16010-16030 are ports I specified in the MotorHead dedicated server client ports section. You need to specify client ports so that Motorhead does not assign client ports randomly.
MSN Game Zone [support page] [DX support page] (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 6667 IN TCP 28800 - 29000
for DX play also open these ports: IN TCP 47624 IN TCP 2300 - 2400 IN UDP 2300 - 2400
QuakeIII Each computer playing QuakeIII must use a different port number, starting at 27660 and incrementing by 1. You'll also need to do the following:
1. Right click on the QIII icon 2. Choose "Properties" 3. In the Target field you'll see a line like "C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\quake3.exe" 4. Add the Quake III net_port command to specify a unique communication port for each system. The complete field should look like this: "C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\quake3.exe" +set net_port 27660 5. Click OK. 6. Repeat for each system behind the NAT, adding one to the net_port selected (27660,27661,27662)
IN UDP 27660 (for first player)
Rainbow Six (Client and Server) OUT TCP 2346 IN TCP 2346
Rogue Spear OUT TCP 2346 IN TCP 2346
Soldier of Fortune IN UDP 28910 - 28915
Starcraft IN UDP 6112
Starfleet Command (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 2300 - 2400 IN TCP 47624 IN UDP 2300 - 2400 IN UDP 47624
SWAT3 IN TCP 16639 IN UDP 16638
Ultima IN TCP 5001-5010 Game IN TCP 7775-7777 Login IN TCP 8888 Patch IN TCP 8800-8900 UO Messenger IN TCP 9999 Patch IN TCP 7875 UOMonitor
Port 7875 is not used by the game, but by UOMonitor, which many players use to monitor server status.
Unreal Tournament server IN UDP 7777 (default gameplay port) IN UDP 7778 (server query port IN UDP 7779+ (UDP 7779+ are allocated dynamically for each helper UdpLink objects, including UdpServerUplin objects. Try starting with 7779-7781 and add ports if needed.)) IN UDP 27900 (server query, if master server uplink is enabled. Some master servers use other ports, like 27500) IN TCP 8080 (Port 8080 is for UT Server Admin. In the [UWeb.WebServer] section of the server.ini file, set the ListenPort to 8080 (to match the mapped port above) and ServerName to the IP assigned to the router from your ISP.)
Westwood Online - C&C Tiberian Sun & Dune 2000 Note: Westwood Online supports only one user per public IP address at any given time. Apprule courtesy of Quantus' World OUT TCP 4000 IN TCP 4000 IN UDP 1140 1234 IN TCP 1140 1234 OUT UDP 1140 1234 OUT TCP 1140 1234
ZNES IN UDP 7845 [Use Quake Translation if you can set it]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Common Servers FTP Server on your LAN IN TCP 21
POP3 Mail Server on your LAN IN TCP 110
SMTP Mail server" on your LAN IN TCP 25
TELNET Server on your LAN IN TCP 23
WEB Server on your LAN IN TCP 80
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other BAYVPN OUT UDP 500
CITRIX Metaframe / ICA client (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 1494 IN UDP 1604 IN TCP 1023 - 5000 (NOTE: Depending on the number of clients/sessions, you can try decreasing this range, or you may need to increase it.)
CarbonCopy32 host on your LAN (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 1680 IN UDP 1023-1679
Deerfield MDaemon Email Server IN TCP 3000 IN TCP 3001
Direct Connect (Watch Out! Opens a wide port range!) IN TCP 375 - 425
FW1VPN OUT UDP 259
Laplink Host IN TCP 1547
Lotus Notes Server IN TCP 1352
NTP (Network Time Protocol) OUT UDP 123 IN UDP 123
pcANYHWERE host on your LAN IN TCP 5631 IN UDP 5632
RAdmin (Fama Tech) IN TCP 4899
Remote Anything FAQ page IN TCP 3999 - 4000 IN UDP 3996 - 3998
Remotely AnyWhere IN TCP 2000
Remotely Possible Server IN TCP 799
Shiva VPN (set the mobile option in the Shiva VPN client software to be your public IP address) OUT UDP 2233 IN UDP 2233
Timbuktu Pro IN TCP 407 IN TCP 1417 - 1420 IN UDP 407 IN UDP 1417 - 1420
Virtual Network Computing (VNC) IN TCP 5500 IN TCP 5800 IN TCP 5900
Windows 2000 Terminal Server (probably also works for NT Terminal services) IN TCP 3389 IN UDP 3389
Güzel bir çalışma, teşekkürler ..
iyi güzel de en azından ingilizce kısımları türkçeye çevirseydin..bilmeyenler ne yapsın? ;)
odut imzadaki olay nedir hep görüyorum bu ve benzeri şeyleri
hocam o nasil tras oyle, ense usumuyor mu, yeni mi terhis oldun askeriyeden? bulbul yuva yaparsa sasirmam kafana
bulbul yuvasi geldi aklima, ne de guzel tatlidir hee..
ya sen bu isi iyi biliyor olmalisin, ben msn'de sesli zimbirtiyi halledemedim hala. sen bir yardim ediver de yapalim bu isi.
5. If you can complete your phone call or voice or video conversation successfully with your firewall turned off, your firewall may not be UPnP-compliant. Too use voice and video communications with Windows Messenger through a non-UPnP firewall (such as Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration Server 2000), you must configure the firewall to permit incoming traffic on UDP ports 5004 through 65535.
6. If you are behind a Linksys NAT router, you must open ports on the router to permit the voice and file transfer traffic that you want. The following table lists the ports that you must open to permit the MSN file transfer or voice connections:Service TCP ports UDP ports Incoming voice (computer to computer) 6901 6901 Voice (computer to phone) 6801, 6901, 2001-2120 File transfer (receiving a file) 6891-6900 Note In the "File transfer" cell, 10 ports are opened (ports 6891 through 6900 inclusive) so that you can perform 10 file transfer operations at a time. If you open only one of these ports, you can only transfer one file at a time.
bunlari da ben ilave edeyim ama bi pohk oldugu yok. napcaz simdik aauumm?
senin gagan cok uzunmus hoca, biraz kapat gagani bakim simdi yuksrida adi gecen linksys adsl modemde yasadigin durum senin basina siemens modem ile gelmis durumda hemen etud'e gecelim: her turlu firewal'i kapadin, hala msn'de sesli konusma yapamiyor musun? o halde msn'de connection'a baktiginda asagidakileri goruyor olmalisin?
1- you are connected to the internet through a upnp symmetric nat. (administrator) 2- you are connected to the internet through an unknown nat. (administrator) 3- you are connected to the internet through a non upnp symmetric nat. (administrator)
simdi biz bunu soyle " you are connected to the internet through a upnp restiricted nat. (administrator)" yapmaliyiz da nasil? bunu yaptik mi derdine derman olacak mi senin icin oynatalim ve gorelim..
modeminde, napt only enable olmali? bunu nap&napt enable moduna getirecez ama yetmeyecek. ardindan sunu da yapacaksin:
Public (WAN) IP Adress'e sana atanan ip no'sunu gireceksin Private (LAN) IP Adress'e de ethernet kartina atadigin IP nosunu gireceksin.
sonuc:
4- you are connected to the internet through a upnp restiricted nat. (administrator)
( sahraaa len bu kiyagimi unutma hee)
USR 9105 ADSL Modem, special application port list (taze ) bu arada bu modemi kotuleyen var ise once upgrade sonra da kullanmasini ogrensin..
Active Worlds 3000,5670,7777,7000 TCP
Age of Empires 47624,6073,2300-2400 TCP \ 2300-2400 UDP
Age of Empires Expansion: The Rise of Rome 47624,6073,2300-2400 TCP \ 2300-2400 UDP
Age of Empires II Expansion: The Conquerors 47624,6073,2300-2400 TCP \ 2300-2400 UDP
Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings 47624,6073,2300-2400 TCP \ 2300-2400 UDP
Age of Kings 47624,6073,2300-2400 TCP \ 2300-2400 UDP
Age of Wonders 47624,6073,2300-2400 TCP \ 2300-2400 UDP
merhaba bende d-link dsl-500g adls modem var, bunları nasıl yerleştireceğim mesela ,msn ,kazaa ,netmeeting, dc++.. bunlarıın port numaralarını nasıl yerleştirebilirim yardımcı olursanız sevinirimmm çeşitli problemlerle karşılaşıyorum bu programlarda
Sorry, this product has been discontinued and is no longer supported by D-Link tech support. (dsl500)
seninki 500g ama eser yok bu urunden.. 500 olmasin?
advanced filtering and firewall olayindan yaparsin sen bu isi..
Selam Bu D-Link DSL500G adls modeminden bende de var problemsiz çalışıyor desek yeridir ama arkadaşında dediği gibi bunların amerikada satışı yok ve teknik desten vermiyorlar online destek isticektim malesef onudayapmıyorlar ve ben bir Age of Empires II the conquerors hastası olarak zone.com daki serverlara girsemde oyunlara giremiyorum uınable to join the game diyor, bu portlardan olsa gere. DXport diye bi program portları açtığını iddia ediyor ama malesef ben denedim availible diyor portlara fakat ben yine giremiyorum oyuna. NAT yada firewall ve yahut ip filter ile igili olabilir diyorum firewall disable gorunuyor modem ayarında.. Nasıl giricem bu oyuna ben bu modemle.. Diğer modemlerden olan arkadaşlar halettiler bi şekilde bu problemi ama benim modemin arabirimi pek userfriendly değil çok basit duruyor ama bi ayar yapamıyorum.. Buna bi çözüm arıyorum. Yardım ederseniz sevinirim iyi günler
sp2 vardir mewluth dedi ki kaldir sp2'yi. ben de yeni win kurdum. firewall ve bilimum herseyi disable yapti isen, geriye bir tek windows kaliyor.
Evet sanırım XP SP2 yine bi yerleri kapatıyor ondan oluyor. sp2 yi kaldırıp tekrar dene..
Selam tekrardan, servis pack 2 yuklu değil bende servis pack 1 yuklu daha once cable bağlantı vardı takır takır sorunsuz oynadım ama nalet adsl de malesef olmuyor. Nat ayarları diyorlar acaba onlarla ilgili birşeymi benim ip 10.1.1.5 gibi bir ip gorunuyor buda sanırım lan ın bana verdiği ip daha doğrusu benim atatığım ip birde gerçek ip var 212 li bişilerokuduğum kadarı ile lan daki ip mi dış wan a tanıtmam translate etmem gerekiyor bunuda dediğim gibi nat ayarlarından rule koymam lazım sanırım ve bundada bir sürü seçenek var portlar var, ne bileyim bu tarz şeyler, bir oyunu internetten oynamak bu kadar zahmetlimi olur yahevesini kaçırıyorlar insanın gene bu at ayarından anlıyan varmı buralarda banada yardım çı olabilecek sevabına..??
siz açmaya çalışıyorsunuz ben kapatmaya aresin bağlanmasını engelleyen port hangisi aresin içindeki diyorsanız olmuyor modemim usr9105 4 port birde modemin hangi arayüzünden yapılır teşekkürler
Bence böyle görüntü kirliliği yapmak yerine bunları aldığınız sitelerin adresini verseniz daha uygundur. Ama tabi bu farklı bi olay aramalarda çıkmaz öbür türlü. Vaz geçtim ben :) E kıvırmayıda bilecen bu zamanda :))
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Selam tekrardan, servis pack 2 yuklu değil bende servis pack 1 yuklu daha once cable bağlantı vardı takır takır sorunsuz oynadım ama nalet adsl de malesef olmuyor. Nat ayarları diyorlar acaba onlarla ilgili birşeymi benim ip 10.1.1.5 gibi bir ip gorunuyor buda sanırım lan ın bana verdiği ip daha doğrusu benim atatığım ip birde gerçek ip var 212 li bişilerokuduğum kadarı ile lan daki ip mi dış wan a tanıtmam translate etmem gerekiyor bunuda dediğim gibi nat ayarlarından rule koymam lazım sanırım ve bundada bir sürü seçenek var portlar var, ne bileyim bu tarz şeyler, bir oyunu internetten oynamak bu kadar zahmetlimi olur yahevesini kaçırıyorlar insanın gene bu at ayarından anlıyan varmı buralarda banada yardım çı olabilecek sevabına..??