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Orjinalden alıntı: antiochos
Opelin performans namına özelliği olmayan araçları demişsin OPC ye bakmanı öneririm
Öyle dediğin araba Almanyada Avrupada en çok satan araba oldu...
Opelde sorun filan yok şikayetvar.com u ortaya koyup bana maval anlatmayın...
Opel Astra çok sorun çıkarır bile denilebilir ama zevkinden şüphe duyarım demek komik, sokağa çık Astrayı sor yüz insandan 99 u Astrayı beğenir... Ama Civic i beğenenden çok beğenmeyen var, ben kaç kişiye sordum bu ne 1980 lı yılların japon arabalarına benziyo , yumurta gibi olmuş diyorlar...
Neyse polemik yapmaya gerek yok mal meydanda satsın da görelim...
Accordu filan da böyle bir tasarımla yaparlarsa Honda kapanır...
Ha ben Civic HB ye kötü demiyorum ama o arabaya o parayı veren bence enayidir demek istemiyorum ama bence öyledir...
ya bak önce terbiyeli ol.öyle enayi felan.sanane isteyen istediği arabaya istediği parayı verir.o adama enayi diyen enayidir çünkü zevkler ve renkler tartışılmaz.
ha o çok övdüğün opele çok bindim ben araç tam bir baş belası.airbagler patlamaz.durduk yere göstergede ışıklar yanar.
ki arabanın süspansiyonunun sertliğinden bahsetmek bile istemiyorum.ha TR'de çok tutuldu ama bizim milletimiz dediğin gibi
zevksiz ki opele biniyor
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Haziran sonunda 1.6 elegance(sunroof) otomatik vites ve gümüş metalik renkli bir honda civic sahibi olacağım inşallah...
ama zam geldi yavvvv 750 ytl -
dış görüntü bence cok daha sık durmus içerdeki malzeme kalitesine neden hala alt sınıf muamelesi yapıyor honda anlamak mümkün değil -
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Orjinalden alıntı: ogeday21
Haziran sonunda 1.6 elegance(sunroof) otomatik vites ve gümüş metalik renkli bir honda civic sahibi olacağım inşallah...
ama zam geldi yavvvv 750 ytl
Napalım yani 750 ytl için vaz mı geçelim güzelim arabadan:) -
Yeni civic sedanı inceleme fırsatım oldu.Arabanın içi ve dışı çok güzel ancak bagajı biraz küçük ve ben uzun boyluyum arka koltuğa oturup geriye yaslanınca başım nerede ise tavana değiyor.Bunların dışında dediğim gibi çok güzel bir oomobil -
merhaba bende hb siparişini verdim gecen hafta gittigim bayide bes kişi sıradaydı ama hepsi otamatik için ben düz vites arac için ilk sıradayım bana sölenen haziran 15-20 teslim ederiz di insallah teslim alırız salı gunu kesin tarih vermek için arayacaklar hayırlısı bekliyoruz -
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Orjinalden alıntı: joyar
merhaba bende hb siparişini verdim gecen hafta gittigim bayide bes kişi sıradaydı ama hepsi otamatik için ben düz vites arac için ilk sıradayım bana sölenen haziran 15-20 teslim ederiz di insallah teslim alırız salı gunu kesin tarih vermek için arayacaklar hayırlısı bekliyoruz
hayırlı olsun.gerçekten iyi bir tercih.çünkü arabanın tasarımı süper.
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Sakıncası yoksa hangi bayiden sipariş verdiniz ? ayrıca fiyat garantisi veriyorlarmı?
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Orjinalden alıntı: joyar
merhaba bende hb siparişini verdim gecen hafta gittigim bayide bes kişi sıradaydı ama hepsi otamatik için ben düz vites arac için ilk sıradayım bana sölenen haziran 15-20 teslim ederiz di insallah teslim alırız salı gunu kesin tarih vermek için arayacaklar hayırlısı bekliyoruz
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AUTOCAR YENİ CİVİC 1.8 YOL TESTİ
Honda Civic Hatchback 1.8 i-VTEC EX 5dr
Test Date 17/01/2006 09:00:00
Price when new £16,850
Honda Civic 1.8 i-VTEC EX
These days we are so used to each new generation of car being a slightly bigger, more rounded version of its predecessor – think Golf, think Focus, think almost anything you like, in fact – that when one comes along that does not subscribe to this convention, the lips purse, the brows furrow and many in this business make wise and doom-laden prophecies about its future.
Even so, Honda appears not so much to be going out on a limb with the new Civic as standing on one leg on the end of a small twig while waving two fingers in the general direction of the automotive establishment. When your average punter is 58 years old, it remains to be seen whether such a radical approach is brave or foolhardy.
We don’t know any better than you which side of this precarious balance the Civic will fall but we can tell you whether or not this brave hatch deserves to succeed.
The Civic arrives with just five doors – for now – and three engines. Petrol power comes in either 1.4- or 1.8-litre form, while the growing band of diesel converts will march in the direction of Honda’s excellent 2.2-litre powerplant. All versions come with a six-speed manual gearbox as standard and are built in Swindon, as will be the much-anticipated Type-R version when it arrives in the autumn.
Prices start from £12,685 for the basic 1.4 S, and progress through SE, ES and EX trim levels to reach a ceiling of £18,100 for the diesel EX. The car you see here is also an EX, but the £16,600 1.8-litre petrol version. This might seem steep, particularly as discounts will be harder to score than on many rivals but, as we shall see, there are many reasons to think it more than worth the premium.
The irony of the Civic is that once you’ve dug beneath the outlandish looks, what lies beneath is the most conventional Honda hatch for over a decade. There’s the usual transverse engine and gearbox, and a steel monocoque, but while all recent Civics have benefited from geometrically optimal double wishbone suspension at each corner, this generation offers nothing more than struts up front and a torsion beam axle at the back.
We wonder if this will prove a false economy, particularly when its best rivals, the Ford Focus and VW Golf, have abandoned the torsion beam in favour of fully independent, highly sophisticated multi-link systems, with predictable improvements to both ride and handling without any apparent packaging penalty.
But if Honda has cut corners on the suspension, it has gone out of its way to equip the Civic with a state-of-the-art engine. Thanks to Honda’s VTEC system and numerous other technologies Honda says the 1799cc, twin-cam unit offers the performance of a 2.0-litre motor, combined with the fuel efficiency of a 1.5-litre powerplant, a claim borne out at least in part during our test.
Fine driving position but too many materials
We suspect that more drivers will find fault in some of the choices Honda has made for the Civic’s chassis configuration. Drive it fast on smooth, flat roads and you might never think there was a problem.
So far so good. The problems only start when you encounter roads less obliging than those outlined above. Roads like the UK’s. Throw in some surface changes, undulations, ripples and imperfections and this veneer of excellence soon cracks and fades.
At least you can rely on the brakes. The same ventilated front and solid rear discs are used regardless of model and not only do they stop the Civic extremely rapidly, the pedal also possesses precisely the right degrees of meat and progression.
Certainly the Civic’s straight-line acceleration is remarkable: the 0-60mph of 8.2sec besting the performance of almost all 2.0-litre rivals and making a mockery of most 1.8-litre opponents.
Look more closely at the figures, however, and the picture changes. We’re not too worried about the inability to match its maker’s claimed 127mph top speed (the test car was all done at 122mph) but we did notice that the engine needed to be revved hard and the slick six-speed ’box stirred if the Civic’s performance is to cash the cheque written by the looks.
Truth is, this engine is not sufficiently refined to make the Civic as relaxing as it should be on a long run. Unless you reach for the volume control, engine noise is a constant and irritating companion at a steady 80mph, and provides as good a reason as any for finding the extra £1500 that buys the diesel engine and the dramatically enhanced refinement it offers.
Strange to be considering diesel over petrol for reasons other than economy and emissions, but the 2.2-litre diesel is not just more frugal and less polluting than the 1.8-litre petrol, it’s also quieter and quicker.
It is perhaps significant that in the Civic’s press pack, interior and exterior design are placed ahead of more traditional Honda territories such as engine and chassis design. We’re no better placed than you to judge whether the Civic is beautiful or not but we can tell you that behind the presentation lies a car whose static qualities rank among the very best in the class.
Honda has not neglected the basics. All versions have a rake-and-reach adjustable wheel and a fine driving position. The electronic dials – showing speed outside the steering wheel rim, and revs, water and fuel gauges within – works remarkably well, while the groupings of the minor controls within finger-tip reach are sensible, attractive and logical.
Open a back door with the NSX-style concealed handle and it reveals a spacious rear cabin offering excellent legroom and more than adequate headroom for most adults, let alone the more typical cargo of children. What it doesn’t show is that those seats not only fold flat into the floor with typical Honda ease and precision, but you can also flip their bases up against the backrest to allow easy stowage of tall, slim items, such as a child’s mountain bike. Meanwhile the boot itself is vast, easy to access and has additional secure underfloor stowage.
Indeed the only really bum note struck by the cabin is the bewildering number of materials Honda has used to trim it. There’s black plastic, grey plastic, smooth plastic, grained plastics of different varieties, not to mention alloy pedals and armrests.
Still, it should prove a pretty safe place to hang out. Honda predicts a maximum five-star Euro NCAP crash test rating with such confidence (along with three-star pedestrian and four-star child protection score) that you suspect they know something we don’t. In addition there are standard stability controls, dual front and side airbags and ISOFIX child-seat mounting points on all models.
RESULT
We think Honda deserves all the dividends it earns from the outstandingly bold
Civic. But we cannot ignore some significant dynamic failings, particularly in the chassis and engine
refinement, and it is these which keep the Civic from claiming class leadership. Honda is greatly admired for
its engineering standards and it will let them slip at its peril.
iYİ BİR İNGİLİZCESİ OLAN BİR ARKADAŞ SONUÇ BÖLÜMÜNÜ TERCÜME EDERSE SEVİNİRİM. yANLIŞLIK YAPMAYIM...
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nereye sipariş verdin bende oraya vereyim eylül ayına sıra verdiler.
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Orjinalden alıntı: joyar
merhaba bende hb siparişini verdim gecen hafta gittigim bayide bes kişi sıradaydı ama hepsi otamatik için ben düz vites arac için ilk sıradayım bana sölenen haziran 15-20 teslim ederiz di insallah teslim alırız salı gunu kesin tarih vermek için arayacaklar hayırlısı bekliyoruz
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Orjinalden alıntı: Ahmey
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Orjinalden alıntı: mrcanadian
BENCE sedanın esamesi bile okunmaz...
esamesi olacak mesane başka bişey
< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi mrcanadian -- 29 Mayıs 2006; 9:23:10 >
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anlamsız bir tartısma olmasın burda dilegimiz o
ama ben konuya soyle katılmak ıstıyorum
neden pasat daha cok cunku insanlar honda dan korkutulmus durumda eskiden beri servis pahalı yp yok gibi yok altı cok alcak hemen carpıyo yere falan bence neden honda nın oyle cok erişilemez bir duruma sokulmasından kaynaklanmıstır yoksa aynı anda aynı miktarda tanıtım olsa idi alman sevdalısı olmayan herkes hondayı secerdi diyorum ben
bu arada opel 250bg in teknik verillerinin oldugu bir sayfa varsa burayada yazarmısınız -
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Orjinalden alıntı: gorele2000
AUTOCAR YENİ CİVİC 1.8 YOL TESTİ
Honda Civic Hatchback 1.8 i-VTEC EX 5dr
Test Date 17/01/2006 09:00:00
Price when new £16,850
Honda Civic 1.8 i-VTEC EX
These days we are so used to each new generation of car being a slightly bigger, more rounded version of its predecessor – think Golf, think Focus, think almost anything you like, in fact – that when one comes along that does not subscribe to this convention, the lips purse, the brows furrow and many in this business make wise and doom-laden prophecies about its future.
Even so, Honda appears not so much to be going out on a limb with the new Civic as standing on one leg on the end of a small twig while waving two fingers in the general direction of the automotive establishment. When your average punter is 58 years old, it remains to be seen whether such a radical approach is brave or foolhardy.
We don’t know any better than you which side of this precarious balance the Civic will fall but we can tell you whether or not this brave hatch deserves to succeed.ü
The Civic arrives with just five doors – for now – and three engines. Petrol power comes in either 1.4- or 1.8-litre form, while the growing band of diesel converts will march in the direction of Honda’s excellent 2.2-litre powerplant. All versions come with a six-speed manual gearbox as standard and are built in Swindon, as will be the much-anticipated Type-R version when it arrives in the autumn.
Prices start from £12,685 for the basic 1.4 S, and progress through SE, ES and EX trim levels to reach a ceiling of £18,100 for the diesel EX. The car you see here is also an EX, but the £16,600 1.8-litre petrol version. This might seem steep, particularly as discounts will be harder to score than on many rivals but, as we shall see, there are many reasons to think it more than worth the premium.
The irony of the Civic is that once you’ve dug beneath the outlandish looks, what lies beneath is the most conventional Honda hatch for over a decade. There’s the usual transverse engine and gearbox, and a steel monocoque, but while all recent Civics have benefited from geometrically optimal double wishbone suspension at each corner, this generation offers nothing more than struts up front and a torsion beam axle at the back.
We wonder if this will prove a false economy, particularly when its best rivals, the Ford Focus and VW Golf, have abandoned the torsion beam in favour of fully independent, highly sophisticated multi-link systems, with predictable improvements to both ride and handling without any apparent packaging penalty.
But if Honda has cut corners on the suspension, it has gone out of its way to equip the Civic with a state-of-the-art engine. Thanks to Honda’s VTEC system and numerous other technologies Honda says the 1799cc, twin-cam unit offers the performance of a 2.0-litre motor, combined with the fuel efficiency of a 1.5-litre powerplant, a claim borne out at least in part during our test.
Fine driving position but too many materials
We suspect that more drivers will find fault in some of the choices Honda has made for the Civic’s chassis configuration. Drive it fast on smooth, flat roads and you might never think there was a problem.
So far so good. The problems only start when you encounter roads less obliging than those outlined above. Roads like the UK’s. Throw in some surface changes, undulations, ripples and imperfections and this veneer of excellence soon cracks and fades.
At least you can rely on the brakes. The same ventilated front and solid rear discs are used regardless of model and not only do they stop the Civic extremely rapidly, the pedal also possesses precisely the right degrees of meat and progression.
Certainly the Civic’s straight-line acceleration is remarkable: the 0-60mph of 8.2sec besting the performance of almost all 2.0-litre rivals and making a mockery of most 1.8-litre opponents.
Look more closely at the figures, however, and the picture changes. We’re not too worried about the inability to match its maker’s claimed 127mph top speed (the test car was all done at 122mph) but we did notice that the engine needed to be revved hard and the slick six-speed ’box stirred if the Civic’s performance is to cash the cheque written by the looks.
Truth is, this engine is not sufficiently refined to make the Civic as relaxing as it should be on a long run. Unless you reach for the volume control, engine noise is a constant and irritating companion at a steady 80mph, and provides as good a reason as any for finding the extra £1500 that buys the diesel engine and the dramatically enhanced refinement it offers.
Strange to be considering diesel over petrol for reasons other than economy and emissions, but the 2.2-litre diesel is not just more frugal and less polluting than the 1.8-litre petrol, it’s also quieter and quicker.
It is perhaps significant that in the Civic’s press pack, interior and exterior design are placed ahead of more traditional Honda territories such as engine and chassis design. We’re no better placed than you to judge whether the Civic is beautiful or not but we can tell you that behind the presentation lies a car whose static qualities rank among the very best in the class.
Honda has not neglected the basics. All versions have a rake-and-reach adjustable wheel and a fine driving position. The electronic dials – showing speed outside the steering wheel rim, and revs, water and fuel gauges within – works remarkably well, while the groupings of the minor controls within finger-tip reach are sensible, attractive and logical.
Open a back door with the NSX-style concealed handle and it reveals a spacious rear cabin offering excellent legroom and more than adequate headroom for most adults, let alone the more typical cargo of children. What it doesn’t show is that those seats not only fold flat into the floor with typical Honda ease and precision, but you can also flip their bases up against the backrest to allow easy stowage of tall, slim items, such as a child’s mountain bike. Meanwhile the boot itself is vast, easy to access and has additional secure underfloor stowage.
Indeed the only really bum note struck by the cabin is the bewildering number of materials Honda has used to trim it. There’s black plastic, grey plastic, smooth plastic, grained plastics of different varieties, not to mention alloy pedals and armrests.
Still, it should prove a pretty safe place to hang out. Honda predicts a maximum five-star Euro NCAP crash test rating with such confidence (along with three-star pedestrian and four-star child protection score) that you suspect they know something we don’t. In addition there are standard stability controls, dual front and side airbags and ISOFIX child-seat mounting points on all models.
RESULT
We think Honda deserves all the dividends it earns from the outstandingly bold
Civic. But we cannot ignore some significant dynamic failings, particularly in the chassis and engine
refinement, and it is these which keep the Civic from claiming class leadership. Honda is greatly admired for
its engineering standards and it will let them slip at its peril.
iYİ BİR İNGİLİZCESİ OLAN BİR ARKADAŞ SONUÇ BÖLÜMÜNÜ TERCÜME EDERSE SEVİNİRİM. yANLIŞLIK YAPMAYIM...
Biz düşünüyoruz ki , honda civicten kazandığı tüm kar paylarını hakedior. Fakat, bazı dinamik(yürüyen aksam) hataları göz ardı edemeyiz, özellikle şase ve motorda...(bura bana çok saçma geldi).Bu hatalar civicin sınıfında lider olmasına engel oluor.Honda kendi mühendislik standartları ile takdire şayan bir araç ve honda mühendisleri, civicin kendi hatalarını düzeltecektir.
Umarım tercume edebilmişimdir
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< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi Loop -- 29 Mayıs 2006; 10:26:37 >
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daha önce civic konusu açılmadı mı? bu topik nasıl kilitlenmiyor merak ettim doğrusu? -
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yabancı siteelrde çaok fazla civic testi okudum..genelde arabayı başarılı buluyorlar...ama ülkemizde ne kadar çok arabadan anlayan var ki orasında burasında kusur buluyorlar.... -
YABANCI SITELERDEKI INCELEME ADRSLERINI ATARSANIZ HERKES FAYDALANMIS OLUR
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Dün honda Bayisine gittim Yeni CİVİC inceledim bence kayet güzel araç test araçları daha gelmediği için test sürüşünü yapamadım...Araç gerçekten çok rahat ve konforlu bir iç mekana sahip tabi bu benim için öle en azından arabanın burnu görünmüyo doğru ama hangimiz araç kullanırken arabanın kaputuna baka baka gidiyoz he evet park yaparken bakıyoz o ayrı ama öle ki araçın kaputu kısa alışa gelmiş oldumuz araçı park eder gibi park etsek bile yukarıda bi arkadaşımızın ve satıcının dediği gibi en az 20-30 cm boş kalır aracın önü...Ama en büyük eksikliği kısıtlı bagaj hacmi oda istetmeyi gizlemek için kullanılan kalın köpüksü bişeyden dolayı bagaj tabanı baya yüksel miş ki bide tam altında benzin deposu var...Ama geri kalan özellikleri ve donanımı çok güzel bence 1.6 sedan elegance veya premium modeli çok uygun...
Satıcının bana sölediği bir diğer şey ise tam kesin olmamasına karşım Ağustos gibi bir kampanya olabilirmiş oda şöle eski kasa sanırım 97'-'00 model civic sedan sahipleri için bir kampanya olacakmış ve avantajlı olur dedi ama sadece sedana mı hb lerede yaparlar mı bilemiorum...Tahminim o modeller arasında en çok sedan modeli tutuğu için yapabilirler bekleyip göreceğiz olacak mı olmicak mı...
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