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  • Sofya Teknik Üniversitesinde okuyanlar lütfen yardımcı olabilirmi özellikle Bilgisayar Mühendisliği okuyan arkadaşlara sorularım var.



    1- Sofya Teknik Üniversitesi sağlam bir üniversitemi ? Eğitim seviyesi nasıl ? Azerbaycandaki gibi bilgisayarsız bilgisayar mühendisliği okumayalım ?

    2- Yurt ücretleri yıllık ne kadar?

    3- Bulgaristanda yaşam pahalımı ? Bulgaristanda okuyan arkadaşlar aylık ortalama kaç para harcıyorlar ?



    Şuanda aklıma gelenler bu kadar , sizin aklınızda olan bilgilendirmek istediğiniz başka şeyler varsa yazabilirsiniz.



  • (yukarı) Kimse yokmu ?
  • Bir arkadaş bilgi veriyordu Sofya teknik üni ile ilgili. Sanırım adı sierra idi. üyelerden aratıp ulaşabilirsin.
  • Genel olarak Bulgaristan'da okuyan öğrenci profili belli.Barajı geçememiş, hayatında kitap yüzü açmamış bir arkadaşım Sofia'ya inşaat mühendisliği okumaya gidiyor.
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    Orijinalden alıntı: chelick

    Bir arkadaş bilgi veriyordu Sofya teknik üni ile ilgili. Sanırım adı sierra idi. üyelerden aratıp ulaşabilirsin.


    Arkadaşa msn adresimi verdim. İlginiz için teşekkürler ( ;
  • Zamaninda arastirmistim Bulgaristani
    Guya Bulgaristan da tip okuyacaktim
    Arastirdigim kadariyla dersler bulgarca ve ingilize olarak veriliyordu.
    ABye girdikten sonra Bulgaristan cok degismis,fiyatlar artmis
    Turkler pek sevilmiyormus genelde 1.sinifta birakip donuyorlarmis Turkiyeye ogrenciler.
    Ha bir de denklik veriliyormu iyice ogren.
    Denklik verilmezse bosa gider dil biliyorsan gidilebilir tabi paran bolsa
  • quote:

    Orijinalden alıntı: Deep Blue

    Zamaninda arastirmistim Bulgaristani
    Guya Bulgaristan da tip okuyacaktim
    Arastirdigim kadariyla dersler bulgarca ve ingilize olarak veriliyordu.
    ABye girdikten sonra Bulgaristan cok degismis,fiyatlar artmis
    Turkler pek sevilmiyormus genelde 1.sinifta birakip donuyorlarmis Turkiyeye ogrenciler.
    Ha bir de denklik veriliyormu iyice ogren.
    Denklik verilmezse bosa gider dil biliyorsan gidilebilir tabi paran bolsa


    madde madde açıklıyım. 6 yıldır Sofya'da ikamet eden birisi olarak ;

    Ab ye girdikten sonra yine fiyatlar attı ancak asgari ücret 200 ytl dir.
    Türkleri sevmeyen kısım tabiki var, ancak siz kimseye bulaşmassanız kimsede size bulaşmaz ( ;
    Okullarda sağolsunlar Türklerin adını çıkardı bazı kişiler ancak birebir ilişki ve diyaloglarınızı sağlam tutarsanız, kesinlikle bir Bulgardan üstün konuma geçersiniz.
    Tıpın denkliği yok. Var diyen çok ancak Sofya Tekniğin birçok mühendislik bölümleri mevcut ve denkliği var.




  • quote:

    Orijinalden alıntı: Deep Blue


    1.sinifta birakip donuyorlarmis Turkiyeye ogrenciler.


    Eğitim için yetersiz olduklarından kalıyorlardır.Sevilmediklerinden değil
  • quote:

    Orijinalden alıntı: Ata


    quote:

    Orijinalden alıntı: Deep Blue


    1.sinifta birakip donuyorlarmis Turkiyeye ogrenciler.


    Eğitim için yetersiz olduklarından kalıyorlardır.Sevilmediklerinden değil


    Kusura bakmadayın ama Sofya'da 1 saat bulundunuz mu ? Sofya Teknik Üniversitesinin anlaşmalı olduğu üniversitelerin isimlerini yazıyim de inceleyin bizim kaç tane üniversitemizin bu ülkelerle anlaşmaları mevcut bana açıklayın, bilgilendirin lütfen.

    Turkey * Technical University of Istanbul
    Albania * Polytechnic University of Tirana
    Argentina * U.J.N. , Buenos Aires
    Cyprus * University of Cyprus
    Czech Republic * Czeh Technical University in Prague
    Czech Republic * Technical University of Brno
    Federal Public of Yugoslavia * Universitet u Beogradu
    France * Universite des Sciences et Technologies de Lille
    France * Groupe ECOLE Superieure d'Ingenieurs en Electrotechnique - Noisy - Le - Grand
    France * İnstitute National Des Sciences Appliquis - Rennes
    France * INSA - LATEA - Rennes
    France * National Polytechnical Institute of Grenoble (INPG)
    France * Ecole Superirure d'Ingenieurs en Electronique et Electrotechnique, Paris
    France * Higher School of Art and Crafts (ENSAM), Paris
    France * National Polytechnical Institute of Toulouse
    France * ECOLE Superieure d'Ingenieurs en Informatique, Marseille
    France * AUPELF, Monpelie
    F.Y.R. of Macedonia * STS Kiril and Metodij University
    Germany * Technische Universitat Dresden
    Germany * Technische Universitat Chemnitz - Zwickau
    Germany * Technische Universitat Ilmenau
    Germany * Technische Universitat Carolo - Wilhelmina Braunschweig
    Germany * Technische Universitat Karlsruhe
    Germany * Technische Universitat Darmstadt
    Germany * Otto Von Guericke Universitat - Magdeburg
    Germany * Deutsche Akademische Austauschdienst (DAAD) - Bonn
    Germany * HDK Halle
    Greece * National Technical University of Athens
    Hungary * Technical University of Budapest
    Hungary * University of Miskolc
    Ireland * University College Dublin
    Ireland * University of Limerick
    Italy * Universite de Calabrie - Cosenza
    Japan * Tokia University Educational System
    Japan * Tokia University
    Poland * Warsaw University of Technology
    Poland * Technical University of Wroclaw
    Poland * Higher School of Engineering, Radom
    Romania * Universite Polytechnique de Bucarest
    Russia * Moscow Power Engineering Institute (Technical University)
    Russia * Moscow Technical University of Communications and Informatics
    Russia * Moscow Civil Engineering Institute
    Russia * National Electrical Engineering University - Sankt Peterburg
    Serbia * Universitet u Beogradu
    Syria * University of Damascus
    Slovak Republic * Slovak University of Bratislava
    Tunisia * ECOLE Nationale d'Ingenieurs de Monastir
    Tunisia * ECOLE Normale Superieure de I'Enseignement, Technique de Tunis
    Ukraine * The Polytechnics of Kiev
    United Kingdom * Brunel University of West London
    United Kingdom * Staffordshire Polytechnic
    United Kingdom * University of Plymouth
    United Kingdom * University of Nottingham
    United Kingdom * University of Sunderland
    United Kingdom * Brooks University - Oxford and Oxford Center for Graphic Applications
    USA * Southern Illinois University ay Carbondale

    O küçümsediğiniz üniversite dünya sıralamasında İtü nün üzerinde. Bilmiyorum belki İtü nün seviyeside size göre geride olabilir. İyi günler
    Not : Amacım polemik yaratmak kesinlikle değil. Sadece bilgilerimizi pekiştirmek.




  • @sierra

    Saros vakfının araştırma raporunu veriyorum:

    quote:

    SOFIA, Bulgaria | Many high school students were in the front lines of the January protests in Sofia, when a peaceful rally against government corruption and the slow pace of reforms erupted into a violent clash between marchers and police. Several 16-year olds were arrested in the riots. Though many were impressed with the civic consciousness of high school students taking to the streets, others found themselves asking a simple question: Why were Bulgarian students standing at the barricades instead of sitting in classrooms?

    Part of the answer might be found in a seemingly unrelated study. In 2006, Bulgaria was among the worst performing countries participating in the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), an international test that measures academic performance among 15-year-old students. The main focus of the 2006 test was science literacy. With an average score of 434 points, well below the OECD average of 500 points, Bulgaria ranked 44th among 57 countries participating in the program. Bulgarian students had great difficulty answering relatively easy questions such as "What is acid rain?" or "What is the greenhouse effect?"

    Both cases are symptomatic of the ailing Bulgarian education system, which simultaneously fails to keep students in the classroom and provide them with the knowledge that they need to succeed outside of school. According to a report by the Bulgarian National Audit Office, 18,347 children, or a striking 2.12 percent of the total number of students in the country, dropped out of school in 2006-2007. And at least a portion of those that remain feel disgruntled enough with the current system to protest in the dead of winter against government inefficiency.

    Disaffected Teachers
    Massive teachers' strikes in the fall of 2007 left Bulgarian classrooms empty for more than a month. Teachers, then earning an average salary of 215 euros (279 USD) per month, were not only protesting for higher salaries, but also for systematic reforms. Increased funding was not the only solution to the problem in many teachers' eyes; in fact, many argued it was nonsensical to pour money into a badly broken system.

    Though reform has been the mantra of virtually every government over the past 15 years, without the political will to carry it out, "reform" has become almost a dirty word and, simultaneously, an excuse for inaction. The teachers' strike came as a clear sign that immediate changes were needed. The government and teachers' unions eventually settled on a cumulative raise of nearly 50 percent over a span of 10 months for teachers, as well as an increased allocation of the country's GDP for education in the 2008 budget. The 50 percent pay raise was well below the 100 percent raise initially demanded, but was viewed by many as a significant victory at the time.

    Over a year later, it is clear that the strike accomplished very little.

    Salary differentiation based upon qualifications, another one of the teachers' demands, came into effect at the beginning of 2008. Teachers were also offered additional bonuses for introducing interactive teaching methods into the classroom, organizing extracurricular activities, and encouraging their students' participation in Olympiads and academic challenges.

    But the average teacher's salary has yet to reach the 325 euro level that was demanded by striking teachers in the fall of 2007. The current minister of education, Daniel Valchev, recently stated at a conference on secondary education in the city of Plovdiv that the figure is approximately 300 euros at the moment. However, many teachers report that they receive much less.

    Marinela Gospodinova-a middle-school, German-language teacher in Sofia-says her net salary is 195 euros per month. A teacher with 15 years' experience, she was among those striking in the square in front of parliament in 2007, and has been disappointed with developments in the education sphere ever since.

    "They have been trying to reform the education system for years now, and every minister starts different reforms. Not a single one, however, has been brought to its conclusion," Gospodinova said.

    "I think it's high time to consider education as an investment," said Kameliya Todorova, a French teacher at the prestigious First French Language School in Sofia.

    At the end of the 2006/2007 academic year, the teachers at Todorova's school decided to express their protest in a peculiar way: They gave excellent marks (six out of six in the Bulgarian system) to all their students. The protest was an expression of their lack of faith in the current state of education and a way to "fine" the ministry, since the state pays a monetary award to every student with a cumulative grade average of at least 5.50.

    "We have protested many times, and achieved no results so far. That's why we decided to use an unusual form of protest this time around," explained Todorova.

    Some teachers also argue that their low salaries prevent them from staying ahead of the game when it comes to new teaching methods. Marinela Chilikova, who also works at the First French Language School, said: "Every teacher has to be able to afford to pay for their Internet at home and buy new books. With the money we are getting right now, most of us cannot."

    Worthless Grades?
    Remarkably, Education Minister Valchev survived the strike of 2007 and managed to implement a reform that many of his predecessors had failed at numerous times in the past. In May 2008, high school students across the country sat two new standardized final exams at the end of the academic year, called the "matura"-one in Bulgarian language and literature, and another on a subject of their choice.

    The exams are structured along the lines of the A-Levels in Britain or the French Baccalaureat, and are prerequisites for those wishing to pursue higher education or other professional qualifications after high school. The standardized exams mean that students' results across the country are now comparable and every student is judged by the same criteria. Supporters of the exams say the new system will also facilitate the comparison of schools and teachers and create an environment of healthy competition among them.

    Others are skeptical. Until the new exams were introduced, higher education applicants were judged on their performance during the four or five years they spent in high school. Critics argue that the "matura" exams make those grades redundant and do not motivate students to perform well during their entire secondary school careers.

    Moreover, most universities still have their own entrance exams, making the grades on one's own diploma even less valuable. If a student wants to study law or medicine or computer science, he or she still has to take the exam of the corresponding university. However, in 2009, more universities are expected to recognize the standardized exams as entrance exams when assessing in-coming candidates.

    Decentralizing school budgets and delegating rights to school principals to manage their own money are other reforms attempted by the current minister of education. They were put in force at the beginning of 2008 under the banner of "The Money Follows the Student."

    But decentralizing school budgets has led to tensions in many schools, as principals have tried to save on electricity bills, heating, water, repair works, work trips, and other budget items so that they have enough to pay the salaries of teachers and personnel. "Almost 70 percent of the budget still goes to salaries," admits the principal of a mathematics and natural sciences high school, who chose not to be named.

    Yet the new financing system also has the potential to change this bleak picture by increasing competition among schools, says the principal. Since the state provides an allowance per pupil, the more students a school has, the more money will be injected into its budget.

    "Our school is one of the best in the region, so I hope that by attracting more students, we will have more money to meet our expenses and offer better salaries to our teachers," the principal explained.

    Higher Education, Lower Quality
    The situation in Bulgarian universities does not seem any brighter than in its basic schools. In recent years, more and more young Bulgarians have chosen to pursue higher education abroad. In 2008, twice as many Bulgarians went to study in the United Kingdom as compared to 2007, according to British Council data.

    Some of the less popular majors in Bulgarian universities - such as physics, chemistry, and pedagogy - received scarcely enough applicants last fall. And some physics laboratories are at risk of being virtually empty again next academic year, if the situation does not improve. Intelligent young people wishing to engage in significant research and advance in the sciences prefer to do so abroad and increase their chances of receiving more than a 400-500 euro monthly salary at the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences upon graduation.

    The lack of an objective ranking of Bulgarian universities is a major obstacle when it comes to choosing the right place to study. Many young people pay considerable amounts of money for tuition at foreign schools in the belief that they will receive a quality education and improve their future prospects.

    Some Bulgarian businesses have partnered up with higher educational institutions to sponsor laboratories or other facilities on campus, with the intention of recruiting future employees straight out of the classroom. This is especially common in technical universities where IT and telecommunications companies offer access to their latest technologies, software, and other resources. Some of them even sponsor joint programs with foreign establishments and provide scholarships for students and professors who want to spend a semester or a year abroad.

    This practice, however, is limited to certain fields, and is considered by some as an indirect encouragement of the brain drain. "Our students are not for sale, they are human capital," argues Georgi Chobanov, head of the Economics Department of Sofia University. He says that is his answer every time an employer asks him to recommend one of his students for a job.

    At the state level, there is no common effort to reform the system and make it more flexible and closer to the contemporary needs of the market. Many university programs and majors are out-of-date, especially in the natural sciences and technical subjects such as engineering, and professors use one-way teaching methods that have long since disappeared in most European universities.

    Kaynak: http://www.soros.org/initiatives/esp/articles_publications/articles/bulgaria_20090218





    Son paragrafı bile okumanız yeter.Diyor ki; çoğu üniversitenin mühendislik gibi teknik dalları çağın gerisinde kalmış.Öğretmenler, Avrupa'da çoktan bırakılmış olan tek yollu öğretim şelini kullanıyormuş.

    Kaldı ki; orada okuyan ve bahsettiğim gibi kitap yüzü açmamış, fakat her nasılsa okuyan arkadaşlarım var.Gelişmiş bir AB ülkesine gitseler, büyük bir bölümü sınıfını geçemezdi.



    < Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi Ata -- 17 Ağustos 2009; 11:48:13 >




  • Ailem Bulgaristan deyince şiddetle karşı çıktı . Bulgaristan işi yatar.
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    ATA
    Kaldı ki; orada okuyan ve bahsettiğim gibi kitap yüzü açmamış, fakat her nasılsa okuyan arkadaşlarım var.Gelişmiş bir AB ülkesine gitseler, büyük bir bölümü sınıfını geçemezdi.

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  • quote:

    Orijinalden alıntı: Ata

    @sierra

    Saros vakfının araştırma raporunu veriyorum:

    quote:

    SOFIA, Bulgaria | Many high school students were in the front lines of the January protests in Sofia, when a peaceful rally against government corruption and the slow pace of reforms erupted into a violent clash between marchers and police. Several 16-year olds were arrested in the riots. Though many were impressed with the civic consciousness of high school students taking to the streets, others found themselves asking a simple question: Why were Bulgarian students standing at the barricades instead of sitting in classrooms?

    Part of the answer might be found in a seemingly unrelated study. In 2006, Bulgaria was among the worst performing countries participating in the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), an international test that measures academic performance among 15-year-old students. The main focus of the 2006 test was science literacy. With an average score of 434 points, well below the OECD average of 500 points, Bulgaria ranked 44th among 57 countries participating in the program. Bulgarian students had great difficulty answering relatively easy questions such as "What is acid rain?" or "What is the greenhouse effect?"

    Both cases are symptomatic of the ailing Bulgarian education system, which simultaneously fails to keep students in the classroom and provide them with the knowledge that they need to succeed outside of school. According to a report by the Bulgarian National Audit Office, 18,347 children, or a striking 2.12 percent of the total number of students in the country, dropped out of school in 2006-2007. And at least a portion of those that remain feel disgruntled enough with the current system to protest in the dead of winter against government inefficiency.

    Disaffected Teachers
    Massive teachers' strikes in the fall of 2007 left Bulgarian classrooms empty for more than a month. Teachers, then earning an average salary of 215 euros (279 USD) per month, were not only protesting for higher salaries, but also for systematic reforms. Increased funding was not the only solution to the problem in many teachers' eyes; in fact, many argued it was nonsensical to pour money into a badly broken system.

    Though reform has been the mantra of virtually every government over the past 15 years, without the political will to carry it out, "reform" has become almost a dirty word and, simultaneously, an excuse for inaction. The teachers' strike came as a clear sign that immediate changes were needed. The government and teachers' unions eventually settled on a cumulative raise of nearly 50 percent over a span of 10 months for teachers, as well as an increased allocation of the country's GDP for education in the 2008 budget. The 50 percent pay raise was well below the 100 percent raise initially demanded, but was viewed by many as a significant victory at the time.

    Over a year later, it is clear that the strike accomplished very little.

    Salary differentiation based upon qualifications, another one of the teachers' demands, came into effect at the beginning of 2008. Teachers were also offered additional bonuses for introducing interactive teaching methods into the classroom, organizing extracurricular activities, and encouraging their students' participation in Olympiads and academic challenges.

    But the average teacher's salary has yet to reach the 325 euro level that was demanded by striking teachers in the fall of 2007. The current minister of education, Daniel Valchev, recently stated at a conference on secondary education in the city of Plovdiv that the figure is approximately 300 euros at the moment. However, many teachers report that they receive much less.

    Marinela Gospodinova-a middle-school, German-language teacher in Sofia-says her net salary is 195 euros per month. A teacher with 15 years' experience, she was among those striking in the square in front of parliament in 2007, and has been disappointed with developments in the education sphere ever since.

    "They have been trying to reform the education system for years now, and every minister starts different reforms. Not a single one, however, has been brought to its conclusion," Gospodinova said.

    "I think it's high time to consider education as an investment," said Kameliya Todorova, a French teacher at the prestigious First French Language School in Sofia.

    At the end of the 2006/2007 academic year, the teachers at Todorova's school decided to express their protest in a peculiar way: They gave excellent marks (six out of six in the Bulgarian system) to all their students. The protest was an expression of their lack of faith in the current state of education and a way to "fine" the ministry, since the state pays a monetary award to every student with a cumulative grade average of at least 5.50.

    "We have protested many times, and achieved no results so far. That's why we decided to use an unusual form of protest this time around," explained Todorova.

    Some teachers also argue that their low salaries prevent them from staying ahead of the game when it comes to new teaching methods. Marinela Chilikova, who also works at the First French Language School, said: "Every teacher has to be able to afford to pay for their Internet at home and buy new books. With the money we are getting right now, most of us cannot."

    Worthless Grades?
    Remarkably, Education Minister Valchev survived the strike of 2007 and managed to implement a reform that many of his predecessors had failed at numerous times in the past. In May 2008, high school students across the country sat two new standardized final exams at the end of the academic year, called the "matura"-one in Bulgarian language and literature, and another on a subject of their choice.

    The exams are structured along the lines of the A-Levels in Britain or the French Baccalaureat, and are prerequisites for those wishing to pursue higher education or other professional qualifications after high school. The standardized exams mean that students' results across the country are now comparable and every student is judged by the same criteria. Supporters of the exams say the new system will also facilitate the comparison of schools and teachers and create an environment of healthy competition among them.

    Others are skeptical. Until the new exams were introduced, higher education applicants were judged on their performance during the four or five years they spent in high school. Critics argue that the "matura" exams make those grades redundant and do not motivate students to perform well during their entire secondary school careers.

    Moreover, most universities still have their own entrance exams, making the grades on one's own diploma even less valuable. If a student wants to study law or medicine or computer science, he or she still has to take the exam of the corresponding university. However, in 2009, more universities are expected to recognize the standardized exams as entrance exams when assessing in-coming candidates.

    Decentralizing school budgets and delegating rights to school principals to manage their own money are other reforms attempted by the current minister of education. They were put in force at the beginning of 2008 under the banner of "The Money Follows the Student."

    But decentralizing school budgets has led to tensions in many schools, as principals have tried to save on electricity bills, heating, water, repair works, work trips, and other budget items so that they have enough to pay the salaries of teachers and personnel. "Almost 70 percent of the budget still goes to salaries," admits the principal of a mathematics and natural sciences high school, who chose not to be named.

    Yet the new financing system also has the potential to change this bleak picture by increasing competition among schools, says the principal. Since the state provides an allowance per pupil, the more students a school has, the more money will be injected into its budget.

    "Our school is one of the best in the region, so I hope that by attracting more students, we will have more money to meet our expenses and offer better salaries to our teachers," the principal explained.

    Higher Education, Lower Quality
    The situation in Bulgarian universities does not seem any brighter than in its basic schools. In recent years, more and more young Bulgarians have chosen to pursue higher education abroad. In 2008, twice as many Bulgarians went to study in the United Kingdom as compared to 2007, according to British Council data.

    Some of the less popular majors in Bulgarian universities - such as physics, chemistry, and pedagogy - received scarcely enough applicants last fall. And some physics laboratories are at risk of being virtually empty again next academic year, if the situation does not improve. Intelligent young people wishing to engage in significant research and advance in the sciences prefer to do so abroad and increase their chances of receiving more than a 400-500 euro monthly salary at the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences upon graduation.

    The lack of an objective ranking of Bulgarian universities is a major obstacle when it comes to choosing the right place to study. Many young people pay considerable amounts of money for tuition at foreign schools in the belief that they will receive a quality education and improve their future prospects.

    Some Bulgarian businesses have partnered up with higher educational institutions to sponsor laboratories or other facilities on campus, with the intention of recruiting future employees straight out of the classroom. This is especially common in technical universities where IT and telecommunications companies offer access to their latest technologies, software, and other resources. Some of them even sponsor joint programs with foreign establishments and provide scholarships for students and professors who want to spend a semester or a year abroad.

    This practice, however, is limited to certain fields, and is considered by some as an indirect encouragement of the brain drain. "Our students are not for sale, they are human capital," argues Georgi Chobanov, head of the Economics Department of Sofia University. He says that is his answer every time an employer asks him to recommend one of his students for a job.

    At the state level, there is no common effort to reform the system and make it more flexible and closer to the contemporary needs of the market. Many university programs and majors are out-of-date, especially in the natural sciences and technical subjects such as engineering, and professors use one-way teaching methods that have long since disappeared in most European universities.

    Kaynak: http://www.soros.org/initiatives/esp/articles_publications/articles/bulgaria_20090218





    Son paragrafı bile okumanız yeter.Diyor ki; çoğu üniversitenin mühendislik gibi teknik dalları çağın gerisinde kalmış.Öğretmenler, Avrupa'da çoktan bırakılmış olan tek yollu öğretim şelini kullanıyormuş.

    Kaldı ki; orada okuyan ve bahsettiğim gibi kitap yüzü açmamış, fakat her nasılsa okuyan arkadaşlarım var.Gelişmiş bir AB ülkesine gitseler, büyük bir bölümü sınıfını geçemezdi.




    Bizim üniversitelerimiz için hazırlanan bir raporu var mı bu kurumun? bir de onu görelim!




  • mühendislik denkliği var, ben yeni kayıt yaptırdım,, okumak isteyen orda bulgarcayı ingilizcesini geliştirip eğitimini alır zaten kaldıki örnekleride var yeterki istesin, ben 2 yıllık otomasyon bitirdim bu sene hazırlık okuyup seneye büyük ihtimal 2nci sınıftan başlıcam (sdü de okudugum dersler düşücek bknz: süleyman demirel üniversitesi) bir çok yönden mantıklı, öss de rekor kırıp mekatronik mühendisi olabilirdim ama okulum bittikten sonra kendi bölümümle ilgili yapılıcak 2 aşamalı sınavdan yüzde üzerinden her 2 aşamada %50 almam yeterli yani öss de barajı geçmek gibi birşey

    riskli kısımları ot çöp karı kıza bulaşırsanız ayagınızın biri çukurda olur (tır şöförü abilerimin anlattıgı) gece hayatına çıkıpta abartmadan keyfini çıkarıp döndükten sonra herhangi birşey olucagını sanmıyorum zaten orda kızlar kodamanların paralı çalıştırdıkları kadınlar azıcık mantığı olan bu işi parayla da yapmaz zaten

    okumak isteyen eğitimini her yerde alır amacı eğlence olan için boşa para harcama yeri anlıcagınız (denklik başvurusunda pasaport'a kadar herşey kontrol edilir bg de ne kadar kaldınız önemli yani)




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    Hocam buralarda misiniz

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    Hocam buralarda misiniz

    Hocam Bulgaristan işi sakat artık.Denklik almak imkansız hale gelmiş durumda.Ailem 89 göçmeni bizim vatandaşlığımızı dahi elimizden almak istiyorlar şartlar ne kadar zorlaştı siz düşünün.Mülteci ve ateşe sorunlarından sonra Bulgaristanla da aramız açıldı.

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    Okudugum unuversiteyle anlasmasi var sofya teknigin burdan mezun ilup orda 3 ten basliyorum direk. O yuzden arastirmaya basladim. Sonucta ogrenci olarak gidecegim oraya gocmen veya vatandas olmak icin degil. Hayirlisi

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