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Yavuz · 2005-04-26T11:51:14.0000000+03:00

Sevgili arkadaşlar anket sonucuna göre iki üst konu açarak forumda tüm video kamera topic.lerini bir araya toplamak, bilginin daha etkin bir şekilde sunulmasını sağlamak için yürüttüğümüz proje kapsamında ikinci adımı bu konuyu açarak sağlamış olduk. Tüm arkadaşları SONY kamera dışında paylaşacakları sorunları, bilgileri, görüşleri, yenilikler hakkında haberleri için buraya davet ediyorum. Canon video kamera kullandığım için bu konuda elimden geldiğince yardımcı olmaya çalışacağımı da ayrıca belirtmek isterim. İstirhamım SONY video kameralar hakkında bu konumuza herhangi bir görüş bildirilmemesidir. Kıyaslama yapmak için bir marka/model verilebilir ancak SONY video kullanıcımız oldukça fazla olduğundan onlar için ayrı bir topic açtığımızı belirtmek isterim. Saygılarımla... Yavuz BAHÇEKAPILI

Merhabalar,

Bilmem duydunuz mu Panasonic Şubat ayında Lumix DMC-TZ1 modleini tüm dünyaya tanıttı ve Türkiye'ye getirdi.
Özelliklerinide mailın içine yazıyorum. Fiyatı teknoSAda'da çanta hediyeli 699YTL. Sizce ürün alınır mı? En büyük + sı 10x optik zoom olması ki bu kadar kompact bir makinada bu zoom süper bişii bence...

Tavsiyelerinizi bekliyorum. Teşekkürler

Sensor • 1/2.5 " Type CCD
• 6.37 million pixels total
• 5.0 million effective pixels

Image sizes • 2560 x 1920
• 2560 x 1712 (3:2)
• 2560 x 1440 (16:9)
• 2048 x 1536
• 2048 x 13606 (3:2)
• 1920 x 1080 (16:9)
• 1600 x 1200
• 1280 x 960
• 640 x 480
Movie clips • 640 x 480 @ 10 / 30fps
• 320 x 240 @ 10 / 30fps
• 848 x 480 @ 10 / 30fps (16:9)
• recording time depends on Memory Card capacity
• with sound
File formats • JPEG (Exif 2.2)
• DPOF
• QuickTime Motion JPEG
Lens • 35-350mm equiv
• 10x optical zoom
• Leica DC Vario-Elmarit
Image stabilization MEGA OIS: mode 1 / 2
Digital zoom 4x, up to 40x with optical zoom, up to 50x with extra optical zoom
Focus • Auto Focus system
• Normal / Macro (dial)
• Continuous AF on / off
AF area modes • 1 / 9 point
• 1 / 3 point high speed
• Spot
AF assist lamp Yes
Focus distance • Normal: 40cm-infinity (wide) 200cm-infinity (tele)
• Macro / Simple / Motion: 5cm-infinty (wide) 100cm-infinity (tele)
Metering • Intelligent Multiple
• Center weighted
• Spot
ISO sensitivity • Auto
• ISO 80
• ISO 100
• ISO 200
• ISO 400
• ISO 800
• ISO 800-1600 High Sensitivity Mode
Exposure compensation • +/- 2EV
• 1/3 EV steps
Exposure bracketing • +/- 1/3E -1EV
• 3 frames
Shuttter speed 1/2000 - 8secs
Aperture F2.8-5.0 (2 steps / wide) F4.2-7.1 (2 steps / tele)
Modes • Auto
• Simple
• Macro
• Scene
Scene modes • Portrait
• Soft Skin
• Scenery
• Sports
• Night Portrait
• Night Scenery
• Self-Portrait
• Food
• Party
• Candle
• Fireworks
• Starry sky
• Beach
• Aerial Photo
• Snow
• High Sensitivity
• Baby 1 / 2
White balance • Auto
• Daylight
• Cloudy
• Halogen
• White Set
White balance fine tune • +/- 1500k
• 150k steps
Self timer 2 or 10secs
Continuous shooting • 3 / 2fps max 5 images (Standard mode)
• 3 / 2fps max 3 images (Fine mode)
Image parameters Cool, Warm, B&W, Sepia
Flash • Built-in
• Auto
• Auto with red-eye reduction
• Slow synch with red-eye reduction
• Forced on / off
Viewfinder No
LCD monitor • 2.5-inch TFT LCD
• 207,000 pixels
• Field of view 100%
Connectivity • USB
• DC in
• AV out
Print compliance PictBridge
Storage • 13.4MB internal memory
• SD / MMC compatible
Power • Li-ion battery pack included
• Optional AC adapter
Weight (no batt) 234 g (7.3 oz)
Dimensions 112 x 58.1 x 40.2 mm (4.41 x 2.29 x 1.58 in)

Değerli arkadaşlar panasonic 400 ile 500 karşılaştırımısınız.

PANASONIC NV-GS400 KAMERA
Ürün Özellikleri
4 Megapixel 3CCD
Leica Dicomar Lens
Crystal Engine ile mükemmel görüntü
12X optik, 600X dijital zoom
3,5” LCD ekran (200k Pixel)
Işık panelli LCD ekran ile renkli gece çekimi (2 Lux)
OIS (Optic Image Stabilizer) titreşim önleyici
Manüel odaklama halkası
Web kamera fonksiyonu
Mikrofonlu “Free-Style” uzaktan kumanda
1,7 sn hızlı başlama fonksiyonu
SD/MMC kart yuvası
AV ve DV giriş ve çıkış terminali
MotionDV Studio 5.1 hareketli görüntü aktarım programı

Yüksek Kalite Görüntü & Ses
3CCD Kamera Sistemi Evet
Lens Leica Dicomar
Görüntü işlemci LSI Crystal Engine
Sabit Görüntü Kaydı 4MP
OIS (Optik imaj Sabitleyici) OIS
MEGAOIS (Optik imaj Sabitleyici) Evet
Akıllı Rüzgar Önleyici Evet
Zoom Mikrofon & Stereo Mikrofon Evet

Yaratıcılık
Pro-Sinema Modu Evet
Profesyonel Fonksiyonlar Evet
Yüksek Resim Kalitesi Geniş Format (16:9) Evet
Eş Zamanlı Hareketli & Sabit Görüntü Kaydı 1.2 MP
Yumuşak Ten Detayı Evet
Tele Makro Modu Evet
Renkli Gece Çekimi Evet (2 Lux)
Manzara Modu Evet

Kullanım Kolaylıkarı
Tek Dokunuşla Oynatım Hayır
Direkt Mod Seçimi Evet
Yandan Tutma Kayışı Hayır
Lens Kapağı Kapak
Odaklama Halkası Evet (Çoklu)
Flaş Evet (GN6)
Entegre LED Işık Hayır
Aksesuar Yuvası Hot
Optik Zoom 12x
Dijital Zoom 24X/600X
Başlama Hızı 1,7 sn
Ekran 3,5" (200k Pixel)
Akıllı LCD Evet
Power LCD Evet
Mikrofonlu Uzaktan Kumanda Evet
IR Uzaktan Kumanda Evet
Omuz Askısı Evet

Ağ Üzerinde Kullanım
USB 2.0 Evet (HS Modu)
Hafıza Kartı Uyumluluğu SD/MMC
PictBridge Uyumluluğu Evet
DV Giriş/Çıkış Giriş/Çıkış
Analog Giriş/Çıkış Giriş/Çıkış
WEB Kamera Fonksiyonu Evet

Diğer
Ağırlık 700g
Boyutlar (Genişlik x Yükseklik x Derinlik) 81 x 80x178 mm
CD-ROM Motion DV STUDIO 5.1E LE, USB Driver, Video Stream Driver
Garanti Süresi: 2 Yıl

PANASONIC NV-GS500 3 CCD
Media mini DV
Kayıt Formatı Avi
3 CCD Kamera Sistemi Var
O.I.S. Var
Mega O.I.S. Var
Leica Dicomar Lens Var
Görüntü İşlemcisi Crystal engine
Mpeg 2 Motoru Yok
Optik Zoom 12 X
Dijital Zoom 700X
Sabit Görüntü Kaydı 4 MP
Eşzamanlı Fotoğraf&Video kaydı 1.2 MP
16:9 kayıt Var
LCD 2.7 Geniş
Power LCD Var
Tek Tuşlu Navigasyon Var
Yardım Modu Var
Flaş Var
Renkli Gece Görüşü Var
LED Işık Yok
Manuel Fokus Halkası Var
Pro-Sinema Modu Var
Yumuşak Ten Detayı Var
Tele -Makro Modu Var
Hızlı Başlama 1.7 sn
Lens Kapağı Kapak
Aksesuar Yeri Hazır
Sihirli Kayış Var
USB 2.0 HS Mode
SD Kart Var
DV in/out Giriş/çıkış
AV in/out Çıkış
Web Kamera Var

Çok çok faydalı olacağına inandığım bir review a da eklemek isterim... İngilizce olmasına rağmen, faydalı olur kanaatindeyim....

The Panasonic VDR-D300 "Palmcorder" is a compact 3CCD camcorder that records videos to mini DVDs: 3" (8 cm) DVD-RAM, DVD-RW and DVD-R. (Note that it cannot use the "plus" version of DVD+R/RW.) Thanks to the three separate 1/6" CCD image sensors inside, it shoots broadcast-quality videos and turns in decent low-light performance. It also doubles as a 3.1MP digital camera, but its forte definitely lies in shooting video.

5/4/06 UPDATE: before going any further, let me offer a bit of a "warning." The fundamental differences between DVD camcorders and tape (miniDV) camcorders are two: 1) DVDs let you access a scene quickly and easily, while tapes have much faster start-up times (assuming you are already at the point where you can record or play); 2)DVD camcorders like the VDR-D300 use MPEG4 compression whereas miniDV camcorders compress much less. For most scenes you won't notice a difference. In fact you can probably shoot a good professional-looking movie on the VDR-D300. Just be aware that the MPEG4 can very occasionally raises the ugly head of heavy compression for certain shooting conditions. The "warning" concerns the DVD media: if you use DVD-RW, which is more common and cheaper than Panasonic's DVD-RAM, be prepared for up to 5 minutes of formatting time and up to 10 minutes in finalization time (both have to be done with the AC adapter attached, not from battery). In a nutshell, if you plan to do some editing, use DVD-RAM. If you plan to just shoot and watch (like me), use DVD-R or DVD-RW in Video mode (both require finalization but can be played back on almost all DVD players). I just wanted to point out the long formatting and finalization times as the biggest caveat with DVD camcorders, including the DVR-D300.

Update2: if you buy this between now and 7/31, you can get a free camcorder bag and 3 DVD-R blanks from Panasonic by mail. Check their website for the PDF rebate form.

Before offering my take on the VDR-D300, let me tell you why I chose it. My story might be of some help in your own decision making.

First, I had always wanted a 3CCD camcorder of my own. Most consumer camcorders on the market have one image sensor inside. The image sensor is like the eye of the camcorder. The VDR-D300 has not one, but three CCD image sensors, each designed to process a specific color: red, green or blue. In fact, all professional video camcorders -- like the ones used to shoot things on TV (news, dramas, etc.) -- use the 3CCD design to better capture color. Together with proper white-balance calibration and judicious choice of lens, you get eye-pleasing colors and sharpness not found in most consumer camcorders, which tend to give dull, bland, fuzzy video images.

Second, I was a little fed up with using tapes for video recording. You know the drill: you buy a tape-based camcorder, then you find out it's a pain to dub it to a VHS or a DVD, or to transfer it to a computer, so you end up using the camcorder like one or two times a year. Like many folks I have been using the video function of my digital camera a lot and left my Sony DCR-PC5 camcorder behind in the closet. My Fujifilm F10 digital camera shoots pretty good video for a camera, but for important occasions, I still want a real camcorder. (Cameras are designed for still images whereas camcorders are designed for moving pictures. For now and the foreseeable future, there's no perfect hybrid camera that does both very well.) DVD-recording has always appealed to me because I could just pop in a recordable/rewritable DVD, shoot some footage, and then play it back, without all the fussing involved with tape recording. I played with my friends' DVD camcorders (Panasonic and Sony) and really liked this "new" way of shooting videos. I waited until someone released a camcorder that combined DVD recording and the 3-chip design. Panasonic finally did, and I bought.

Oh, when I was contemplating the purchase I also considered Sony's HD (high-def) camcorder, which records high-def video on MiniDV tapes. In the end, budget constraint (that one is $1500, a lot of dough for a poor guy like myself), compatibility concerns (i.e., impossible to burn HD video to DVD, not many friends having HDTV) and also the fact that I have been totally let down by the subjective quality of HDTV content on TV convinced me to stick with the standard NTSC resolution. My priority was to get a camcorder that shoots great colors and clarity, not one that gives the highest resolution. It's the same thing with buying a digital camera: higher number of megapixels doesn't necessarily mean a better picture; the camera's image sensor is just as important, if not more.

OK, let's take a look at the VDR-D300 itself. (A slightly cheaper model, VDR-D250, also sports the 3CCD design and records to DVDs. It has slightly lower resolution and lacks a built-in flash and a few other features.)

Whenever you evaluate a camcorder, video image quality should account for 75-80% of the composite score, because you buy a camcorder to shoot videos! Here, the D300 shines, thanks to its 3CCD design. Video quality is especially excellent when there is a lot of light. It's difficult to describe in words, but let me just say that with this camcorder, you can shoot video that looks almost like the professional stuff you see on TV: clear pictures, pleasing colors, smooth motions. Even though the D300 shoots at the same resolution as other NTSC (standard defintion TV) camcorders, its video images are very noticeably clearer and look sharper. Many consumer camcorders exhibit bleeding reds, but the D300 is largely free from this defect. I would like to point out that when I say "professional-quality eye-pleasing" colors, I don't mean high-saturation colors. Most people like warm, high-saturation colors that "jump out" of the screen. The D300's colors are rather muted when set to auto white balance. If you want to get warm colors, you'll need to manually set the white balance to achieve this effect. I personally use WarmCards from VortexMedia.com.

Indoors, without professional-grade lighting rigs, the D300 turns in good performance. Definitely better than 1CCD camcorders (except probably Sony's HD camcorders), but you'll get most of the 3CCD prowess if you provide enough lighting. After all, photography and videography is 99% about lighting. Not just how much light, but the angle of light, the temperature of light (i.e., white balance), and the quality of light (i.e., diffused or concentrated). Having a 3CCD camcorder like the D300 helps improve your home video images tremendously, but if you want your video to look close to being professional, you need professional lighting techniques. For example, when shooting indoors, use a video light. You can buy a cheap one and just mount it on top of the D300 (it has a cold shoe) and turn on the video light manually. Also use the WarmCards I mentioned earlier to achieve the white balance you desire.

The D300 records videos in three quality settings: XP, SP and LP. XP here means the best quality. (On some video equipment XP means eXtended Play, which equals the least quality, but not here.) You can fit about 18 minutes of video on one side of the DVD media (DVD-RAM, DVD-RW or DVD-R). SP, or Standard Play, gives you 30 minutes, but the quality is noticeably inferior. I'd never use LP (Long Play), because video quality there is worse than VHS. The battery that comes in the package lasts well over an hour of shooting with LCD on (you can also use the viewfinder only to conserve power). You can buy an extended battery that doubles the battery life.

The D300 has some nifty features not found in other brands. One truly unique feature is something called AGS (auto ground-directional standby). This mysterious-sounding function automatically pauses recording when it detects the camera titled straight up or down. This is most useful when you (like I) often forget to stop the recording and end up shooting a lot of junk footage of the ground, shoes, etc. Another nice feature is optical image stabilization, which utilizes a set of small lenses to compensate for handshakes. In theory, optical image stabilization is better than the electronic type (found in Sony's products); in practice, the D300 seems to do a good job of minimizing, but not completely eliminating, handshakes.

The D300 can double as a 3.1MP digital camera, but this feature is nothing to write home about. Still image quality is just okay; I defintitely prefer to use my Nikon D70 or Fujifilm F10 for photography anytime, anywhere. Pictures are recorded on an SD or mini SD card (neither included). BTW, unlike with Sony's recent offerings, you cannot record video to the SD card or capture pictures on the DVD. It doesn't matter to me at all, since I would have wanted to keep video clips and still pictures separate anyway. (You can insert a still image captured on the SD card into your video during editing.)

Video editing can be done in camera, or on a computer. Both Windows and Macintosh are supported, but you definitely get more functions if you use a Windows PC. In fact, Mac users will be disappointed to know that the things they can't do with Panasonic's software, they can't do at all (i.e., no other software is compatible). In the end, it's worth keeping in mind that you buy a DVD camcorder really for its convenience; in my case, for example, I hate editing, so I'm just going to shoot, delete bad scenes, and finalize; no editing whatsoever. If you are an editing type, a miniDV camcorder will be better as all the major brands (Canon, Hitachi, JVC, Panasonic, Sony) offer comprehensive editing support for both Windows and Macintosh.

Conclusion: The Panasonic VDR-D300 (along with its lesser sibling, the D250) is the first DVD camcorder that offers the 3CCD design. Having three separate image sensors for the different primary colors improves image quality tremendously. Recording to a DVD provides the videographer lots of convenience, at the expense of having fewer editing options available than with miniDV tapes. If you want the convenience of shoot-and-watch and want broadcast-quality video, the D300 is absolutely worth its price tag.

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