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Merhaba,

Bu mesajı mümkün olduğunca çok kişiye ulaştırmak amaçlı açıyorum. Forumda daha önce bu konuda dolandırılan birkaç kişi olduğunu da gördüm. Aynı adam aynı numara ile karşınızda.

Hikaye şöyle;

Avcımız güyya bir ingiliz (Bu senoryada öyleydi en azından :)) ve Türkiye'deki görevini bitirip ailesiyle ingiltereye geri dönüyor ama burada satılacak bir arabası ve evi kalıyor. Orada da kendine bir araba aldığı için ve parasını tamamlamak için burdaki arabasını yok pahasına satmak istiyor. Bu vesileyle sahibinden.com da bir ilan açarak ilan detayına da email adresini bırakıyor. Sonrasında araba için mail attığınızda ciddi alıcılara ihtiyacı olduğunu ve zamanını harcamamanızdan bahsediyor. Ilgilendiğinizi anlayınca hemen size Western Union senaryosunu sunuyor ve kapora çıkartmanızı istiyor. Ama farklı bir isme çıkartın ki ben çekemeyim ve western unionda para kilitli kalsın diyor. Bunu demesinin sebebi güyya sizin ciddi olduğunuzu anlamak ve türkiyeye boşu boşuna gelmemiş olmak...Sonrasında sizde şubeden alınan dekontun bir kopyasını istiyor ve o kağıttaki transfer kodundan adam parayı cuk diye çekiveriyor...

Mail yazışmalarını aşağıda iletiyorumm.. Kız arkadaşım olmasaydı belki ben de bir kurbandım :))

Kurban Mail:
Hi,

Could you give me more information about the car ?? Where are you from and where are you living?
How can i buy this car?
Thank you so much!

Dolandırıcı Cevap:
Hello,
First i want to tell you this car is only for turkish people because is registered at turkish name.(if was at my name i can`t sell to you).
I'm writing you regarding the car is like new,in perfect condition ,no scratches,no damage,never involved in any accidents, the engine works perfectly, it has the service book and all papers.Is not leasing. The car is turkey specs.I have attach car photos.Price is 19000 tl.

I must tell you,i just moved with my family in London,United Kingdom and the car is in Turkey in my home garage(i have also a house for sale ).
I can not drive the car here in UK because the steering wheel on the left side.So I bought another car with the wheel on the right side and i didn`t pay all the amount That`s why i decide to sell this car so cheap. I need money to pay my other car before i`ll start to pay extra taxes.
I have nobody in Turkey that could show you the car. I need to come personal to meet you and present the car.So please let me know if you are really interested to buy the car.Please don't spend my time with endless disscutions,or pure curiosity
Respectfully...

Kurban Cevap:

Dear Brett,

I'm looking for a car like this. And It's perfect for me.I couldnt see the pictures but If you didnt involve any accident and your car have a good condition, i will buy it.
I'm living in Istanbul. If you want we can meet in Ankara on Monday. I can give you the money by cash.
Or you can give me the turkish guy's name&phone number then i can make all details with him.
Please resend me the pictures & give me the license plate number.
Thanks & Regards.

Dolandırıcı Cevap:

Hello,
Look how we can make this deal , because I have tried to find the best solution for the both of us. It's very hard for me to take a break from my work, but look how we can make this deal: I think that the best solution is that i will come in Turkey and we can make the deal face
to face, in person.
-You will make a transfer at 3000E-3500E to my location(London, United Kingdom),but not to my name (you will use your best friends name,wife name for example George Bush as receiver's name) so you can be sure that I will not pick up the money until you get the car; so you make a deposit at Western Union and you will give me the transfer's details (scann the paper or take a pictures at the western union receipt) so I can check that the deposit was made.

The transfer must to
be like this:

sender name : your name
sender address : your address
receiver name : friend,wife name,etc..
receiver address : London , United Kingdom

After I verify it I will book a flight and meet you in maxim 2 days. Only after you will receive the car and check it if it OK, you will have to change the receiver's name of the transfer to my name so I can collect my money. So until you will have the car in your hands the money will be deposited on your best friend's name at Western Union Agency. I think it is better to not inform Western Union that you will change the receivers name in a few days because it is possible they ask you to pay the fees twice (fees that are quite big for such an amount),also when you go to a Western Union office to make the transfer,please don't tell there the reason you send the money because here in this country I must pay some additional taxes when I receive the funds. Please say you send the money to your friends or to your partner.
If you agree with these terms, let me know and I will be more than glad to start and complete the transaction with you. Thank you and I hope that you will have the pleasure to drive this car.
I am waiting your answer ASAP.
Thank you and kindly regards!

p.s: If you want to convince me to meet without sending the paper as i told you, please don't lose your time and mine, because i am not going to accept any other transaction.

Kız arkadaşı tarafından uyandırılan Kurban Cevap:

Dear Brett,
You're very famous in Turkey :) sucker!
http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_44018064/tm.htm
Or
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=tr&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_44018064/tm.htm

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erci541

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quote:

Orijinalden alıntı: Riethian

Dolandırıcı Cevap:
Hello,
First i want to tell you this car is only for turkish people because is registered at turkish name.(if was at my name i can`t sell to you).
I'm writing you regarding the car is like new,in perfect condition ,no scratches,no damage,never involved in any accidents, the engine works perfectly, it has the service book and all papers.Is not leasing. The car is turkey specs.I have attach car photos."-The- olmalı"Price is 19000 tl.

I must tell you,i have-olmalı just moved with my family in London,the-olmalı United Kingdom and the car is in Turkey in my home garage(i have also a house for sale ).
I can not drive the car here in UK because the steering wheel on the left side.So I bought another car with the wheel on the right side and i didn`t pay all the amount That`s why i decide to sell this car so cheap. I need money to FOR-olacak pay my other car before i`ll start to pay extra taxes.
I have nobody in Turkey that could show you the car. I need to come personal to meet you and present the car.So please let me know if you are really interested to buy the car.Please don't spend my time with endless disscutions,or pure curiosity
Respectfully...

Dolandırıcı Cevap:

Hello,
Look how we can make this deal , because I have tried to find the best solution for the both of us. It's very hard for me to take a break from my work, but look how we can make this deal: I think that the best solution is that i will come in Turkey and we can make the deal face
to face, in person.
-You will make a transfer at 3000E-3500E to my location(London, United Kingdom),but not to my name (you will use your best friends name,wife name for example George Bush as receiver's name) so you can be sure that I will not pick up the money until you get the car; so you make a deposit at Western Union and you will give me the transfer's details (scann the paper or take a pictures at the western union receipt) so I can check that the deposit was made.

The transfer must to
be like this:

sender name : your name
sender address : your address
receiver name : friend,wife name,etc..
receiver address : London , United Kingdom

After I verify it I will book a flight and meet you in maxim 2 days. Only after you will receive the car and check it if it OK, you will have to change the receiver's name of the transfer to my name so I can collect my money. So until you will have the car in your hands the money will be deposited on your best friend's name at Western Union Agency. I think it is better to not inform Western Union that you will change the receivers name in a few days because it is possible they ask you to pay the fees twice (fees that are quite big for such an amount),also when you go to a Western Union office to make the transfer,please don't tell there the reason you send the money because here in this country I must pay some additional taxes when I receive the funds. Please say you send the money to your friends or to your partner.
If you agree with these terms, let me know and I will be more than glad to start and complete the transaction with you. Thank you and I hope that you will have the pleasure to drive this car.
I am waiting your answer ASAP.
Thank you and kindly regards!

p.s: If you want to convince me to meet without sending the paper as i told you, please don't lose your time and mine, because i am not going to accept any other transaction.

Kız arkadaşı tarafından uyandırılan Kurban Cevap:

Dear Brett,
You're very famous in Turkey :) sucker!
http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_44018064/tm.htm
Or
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=tr&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_44018064/tm.htm

Herkese İyi Akşamlar..

Daha bir çok bomba cümle ve hata var ancak benim hepsini bulmaya zamanım yok.

Gramer yanlışlarının yanında, anlatım da buram buram Türkçe kokuyor. Zaten bu mesajları bilinçli birine okutsanız "Native Speaker" yani anadili İngilizce olan birinin olmadığını şak diye anlar.

The transfer must to be like this: must'tan sonra to be süper ötesi olmuş. Google translate dayamış arkadaş sıkıştığı yerlerde herhalde.

quote:

Orijinalden alıntı: erci541

quote:

Orijinalden alıntı: Riethian

Dolandırıcı Cevap:
Hello,
First i want to tell you this car is only for turkish people because is registered at turkish name.(if was at my name i can`t sell to you).
I'm writing you regarding the car is like new,in perfect condition ,no scratches,no damage,never involved in any accidents, the engine works perfectly, it has the service book and all papers.Is not leasing. The car is turkey specs.I have attach car photos."-The- olmalı"Price is 19000 tl.

I must tell you,i have-olmalı just moved with my family in London,the-olmalı United Kingdom and the car is in Turkey in my home garage(i have also a house for sale ).
I can not drive the car here in UK because the steering wheel on the left side.So I bought another car with the wheel on the right side and i didn`t pay all the amount That`s why i decide to sell this car so cheap. I need money to FOR-olacak pay my other car before i`ll start to pay extra taxes.
I have nobody in Turkey that could show you the car. I need to come personal to meet you and present the car.So please let me know if you are really interested to buy the car.Please don't spend my time with endless disscutions,or pure curiosity
Respectfully...

Dolandırıcı Cevap:

Hello,
Look how we can make this deal , because I have tried to find the best solution for the both of us. It's very hard for me to take a break from my work, but look how we can make this deal: I think that the best solution is that i will come in Turkey and we can make the deal face
to face, in person.
-You will make a transfer at 3000E-3500E to my location(London, United Kingdom),but not to my name (you will use your best friends name,wife name for example George Bush as receiver's name) so you can be sure that I will not pick up the money until you get the car; so you make a deposit at Western Union and you will give me the transfer's details (scann the paper or take a pictures at the western union receipt) so I can check that the deposit was made.

The transfer must to
be like this:

sender name : your name
sender address : your address
receiver name : friend,wife name,etc..
receiver address : London , United Kingdom

After I verify it I will book a flight and meet you in maxim 2 days. Only after you will receive the car and check it if it OK, you will have to change the receiver's name of the transfer to my name so I can collect my money. So until you will have the car in your hands the money will be deposited on your best friend's name at Western Union Agency. I think it is better to not inform Western Union that you will change the receivers name in a few days because it is possible they ask you to pay the fees twice (fees that are quite big for such an amount),also when you go to a Western Union office to make the transfer,please don't tell there the reason you send the money because here in this country I must pay some additional taxes when I receive the funds. Please say you send the money to your friends or to your partner.
If you agree with these terms, let me know and I will be more than glad to start and complete the transaction with you. Thank you and I hope that you will have the pleasure to drive this car.
I am waiting your answer ASAP.
Thank you and kindly regards!

p.s: If you want to convince me to meet without sending the paper as i told you, please don't lose your time and mine, because i am not going to accept any other transaction.

Kız arkadaşı tarafından uyandırılan Kurban Cevap:

Dear Brett,
You're very famous in Turkey :) sucker!
http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_44018064/tm.htm
Or
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=tr&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_44018064/tm.htm

Herkese İyi Akşamlar..

Daha bir çok bomba cümle ve hata var ancak benim hepsini bulmaya zamanım yok. Gramer yanlışlarının yanında, anlatım da buram buram Türkçe kokuyor. Zaten bu mesajları bilinçli birine okutsanız "Native Speaker" yani anadili İngilizce olan birinin olmadığını şak diye anlar.

The transfer must to be like this: must'tan sonra to be süper ötesi olmuş. Google translate dayamış arkadaş sıkıştığı yerlerde herhalde.

Tekrar Selam,

Bu da sahibinden.com da dolandırılan başka bir arkadaşın mesajı....

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HORTTT!!! diyorum çünkü dün aynı adam aynı hikaye ve SHARMAN LUKE ismiyle ve sharman45@live.com mail adresi ile bir işler çevirdi.
eminim epey para kaldırmıştır.

sahibinden.com da ismini hatırlayamadığım bir oto galerisinde 16000 tlye 1.6hdi sx citröen c4 vardı.
ulen dedim bu ne iş ne kadar ucuz okuyam şu açıklamasını derken bir not:
contact me from my personal e mail sharman45@live.com
ingilazca örtmeni olduğumdan hemen soruları yapıştırdım maile akşam vakti.
cevap çabuk geldi. aynen ilk mesajlarda yazan, karşı tarafı kıllandırmaya, arabanın durumu ve ingiltereye göç hikayesini anlatan mesajlar.

ben de en son sordum, e hadi alıyom ozaman gel dedim. bu sabah western üzerinden depozito istediği mesaj gelmiş.

ilk mesaj bu:
Hello,
I'm writing you regarding the car is like new,in perfect condition ,no scratches,no damage,never involved in any accidents, the engine works perfectly, it has the service book and all papers.Is not leasing.

The car is Turkey specs.

Price is 16000 Tl

I must tell you,i just moved with my family in London,United Kingdom and the car is in Turkey in my home garage
(i have also a house for sale ).
I can not drive the car here in UK because the steering wheel on the left side.
So I bought another car with the wheel on the right side and i didn`t pay all the amount
That`s why i decide to sell this car so cheap. I need money to pay my other car before i`ll start to pay extra taxes.
I have nobody in Turkey that could show you the car.
I need to come personal to meet you and present the car.
So please let me know if you are really interested to buy the car.
Please don't spend my time with endless disscutions,or pure curiosity
Respectfully...

adamın ingilizcesi hiç fena değil ama hiç de öyle gerçek bir native speaker ingilizcesi değil, saçma salak ve tekrarlanan hatalar var.
ulen dedim bu ne iş. derken sabah ki mesaj ahanda:

Hi,
I need come my self from Uk to Turkey to show you the car and all the paper and
is in the car and i don't have this papers with me now.
I have a busy schedule and it's very hard for me to come in Turkey .
So to come in Turkey you will have to show me a proof of there seriousness in the car,
well this is what you will have to do for me before i can come down for the viewing,
I will not ask you any money in advance (The transaction will be made face to face ),
i just want to see that you are a serious buyer.
Here is what I propose:
The service name that we'll use is Western Union transfers.
You must find the nearest Western Union agency in any bank and you go to Western Union and you send 2500 Euros to any name you want in Uk.
This transfer will cost you about 100-120 Euros .
At the moment when we will meet, i will pay you back the money,like this you have nothing to lose.

The transfer must to be like this:

sender name : your name
sender address : your address
receiver name : friend,wife name,brother,mother,etc..
receiver address : London , United Kingdom

What happen if you don't have any person in UK for send the money ???
Answer: NO PROBLEM.... YOU WILL SEND ANY NAME YOU WANT ONLY TO SHOW ME YOU HAVE THE MONEY.....

What happen with the money after make the western union payment prove????
Answer: You have 2 options .. you can pick up the money back after you see the car or change the receiver to my name when i arrive back in Uk....

I have plenty customers interested to buy the car.I will come for the first one that provides me the scanned(or photocopy) paper from WesternUnion. As soon as I have the confirmation from WesternUnion that the money are available on his name I stop the transactions with all the other customers... i will give you back this when i meet you the transfer fee.

You must understand correctly the situation you DON'T need send me any money,only prove that have the money until the day you want to see the car for keep this car for you , this is my warranty.

You will test this car before buy and you will pay me the money cash after finish the paper to the notary public.

I wait for your reply.
Thank you!

adam kibarca olmayan bir isme depozito koy, sonra alırsın diyor bana :)
bu mesajdan sonra da hemen google a yazdım "WESTERN UNION DOLANDIRICILIK"
karşıma bu hikaye çıktı.
ve araştırmalarıma göre bir çok ülkede westernden para çekerken kimlik ibrazı sorun değil. ve western transferi buradaki gibi ciddi kurumlara değil de,
saçma sapan bakkala bile verilebiliyormuş.

len dedim senin ananı ......... .......... ...........
bi de küfürleri ingilizceye çevirip yolladım :)

inatla bana western union a göndermezsen olmaz bu iş diye mesaj göndermeye devam ediyor eşşoğlusu...

arkadaşlar kanmayın. sakın ha kanmayın...

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